Why did Trump seek the Presidency in the first place?

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Why did Trump seek the presidency?

  1. To start wars and exterminate Muslims and Mexicans

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  2. Because he is a statesman who wanted to altruistically serve his fellow Americans

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    25.0%
  3. To make lots of money

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  4. To get chicks

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  5. To see his name in the news

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    31.3%
  6. To fly around the word for free

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  7. To see his face on Mt. Rushmore

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    6.3%
  8. To get paid for playing golf

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  9. Other

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    37.5%
  1. Le Chef

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    I first thought it was a stunt to build his brand and just have some fun.

    Now I have no idea. Any suggestion that he is Hitler with designs on World domination and extermination of entire races of people is as ridiculous as any notion that he is a serious statesman with a yearning for public service.

    All the guy seems to really enjoy is those WWF wrestling matches, tweeting, and playing golf.

    Anyway, please participate in the poll and elaborate your reasons below.
     
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    I think it's because he saw the rise of the Deep State and the gradual destruction of the country that it's brought about, particularly in the last 70 years, and had the stones, celebrity, and the money to lose going after its destruction.

    And as we've very clearly seen, he was and is right.

    I mean look around. They defeated Trump by hook and by crook in 2020 and the world's rapidly going to hell under a senile buffoon's leadership that's given the Deep State everything it's ever asked for.

    Be afraid, be very afraid.
     
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    Ego (and, because he could, because the opposition was so weak, because it probably meant making even more money, but most of that goes with ego anyway)..
     
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    With Trump, it’s all about ego. He probably never figured he’d get the nomination, much less win the election. After he took office, he got off on the recognition and power.

    I think he did a lot of good things while he was in office, but the way he took the results of the 2020 election was a complete turnoff. Every time he keeps complaining about it, he digs a bigger hole for himself.
     
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    I voted 'to see his face on Mt Rushmore' and here's why:

    Trump acts as a benevolent narcissist. Its true he wants to be at the top. But in contrast to generic narcissists who just expect/demand to be worshipped for existing, Trump understands that it only works if you do something to warrant it. Trump is in it for his own power, attention, glory, admiration, etc, but he wants to literally make america great again as a means to attain all that. He wants to improve peoples lives, not so he can feel good about their life improving, but so he'll be great for having been the one responsible for it. It would be nice to have an altruistic leader who just cares about everyone, but those people dont run for office. Power seeking is antithetical to altruism. The best we can hope for in our system of governance is the cooperative narcissist such as Trump who, while he wants to be the one who prospers the most, still wants others to prosper as well as the means toward that end. And thats why the rest of the system, being full of generic sociopaths, narcissists and psychopaths, who are happy to rule on top of a pile of battered slaves who hate but fear them, also hate Trump, because while their end goals are similar, their means of attaining those goals are diametrically opposed, as is the sort of world they want to exist at the top of.

    This isn't to say I'm confident Trump can achieve any sort of mutually benefically prosperocracy, he already demonstrated IMO that he's not capable of understanding, or thus defeating 'the deep state' as he would have us believe and probably believes himself that he can. But he's still the best resistor to it on the field, so far.
     
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    2015 White House Correspondents Dinner.
     
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    First and formost because hes a serial narracist who cant help but REQUIRE the adulation of the public.


    I also think it was to help him get some leverage / immunity on several legal issues he was facing.


    And also because Russia wanted him to.
     
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    Trump could have been a great President, but his fragile ego is his biggest weakness

    had he worked to push bipartisan deals, he could have accomplished much.. heck dems offered him his money for the wall in return for DACA, his fragile ego got in the way there too though, same with a infrastructure deal

    Trump could have ended prohibition of Marijuana, that was a history book achievement right there, but he failed to act
     
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    Many of those 'bipartisan deals' require going along with a globalist agenda to degrade America from first-world status so we can more easily (more cooperatively) be integrated into a global authoritative corporate bureaucracy. Trump may not understand a lot of things very well, but he understands he was elected first and foremost to oppose that agenda. Bipartisanism often isn't an option if he wants to try to stay on his 'America First' platform. Leftism/progressivism (and by extension the DNC) seems to be very heavily invested in globalism, by which I refer to the forceful (or at least coercive) expansion of globalization.

    Agree 100% on marijuana. He missed some really obvious, easy and huge political low hanging fruit on that one. Its likely the 'best and brightest' cabinet and advisors he kept hiring who looked really good on paper due to their vast experience in govt selling us out to global authoritarianism steered him away from that one, but that's just my speculation.
     
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    Yes, Trump could have been another Reagan, but Adam Schiff, Hillary Clinton and most of the rest of the Democrats poisoned the well with stupid Russian Hoax. That established the adversarial atmosphere which never went away. If the Democrats had been “the loyal opposition” as things had been during prior administrations, the country would have been much better off.
     
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    Putin was going to be a Reagan, but Hillary and Adam Schiff stopped him?

    Really?

    Do you think Hillary and Schiff would have been able to stop Reagan as easily? Could it be possible, that Trump is no Reagan?
     
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    Trump missed many opportunities, his fragile ego would steer him off course
     
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    Trump could not get anything passed but a huge tax cut for the corps when he had full control

    like I said, Trump's fragile ego got the best of him

    Trump did not understand the art of the deal, he thought he always had to win and the other side loses or he would do nothing, doesn't work that way in politics - not even in his own party - everyone has to feel that got a win, or they won't vote for your bill
     
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    Perhaps. Their pressure was relentless with the goal being to totally derail the Trump presidency. There was no way that the first impeachment could have been passed in Reagan’s time. The number of super Republican hating Democrats was much lower back then. This is a product the higher education system, and shame on them.
     
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    Well, to be fair, if Reagan had been helping Russia the way Trump was by blackmailing Ukraine, he would have been impeached and removed 100-0 in the Senate.
     
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    Oh bull crap!

    Biden said that “a small invasion” would be okay with him. Are you ready to impeach him?
     
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    This thread is about Trump.

    There is no cure for BDS, SAD!
     
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    Whatever “BDS” is, I am sure that it is an insult.
     
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    I think he did it to try and pend off his upcoming legal issues.

    Also, he wants, likes, and abuses,power. He enjoys being a bully. And no one can be a bigger bully that the POTS if they so desire.
     
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    Yes, just look at Biden's new tailpipe emissions standards for new gasoline burning vehicles. He's putting the industry out of business with an executive order. That should not be happening. If those standards are going to be imposed, Congress should do it.

    People complained about Nixon and how his was "an imperial presidency." Biden is a dictator-puppet. You can't reason with him because he has no brain. He's an ice cream eating android that looks like a human being.
     
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    Trump has a serious case of narcissistic personality disorder. He believes he is entitled to the job, although once he had that job he took little interest in it, unless it was something that fed his ego. He has a need to feel superior and be admired that is why he wants the title.
     
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    I don't think most of the stuff he does is thoroughly planned in any way (except for cheating and fraud, of course). He probably ran out of a personal vendetta. My main question is why he had to hire fake actors to pretend to be his supporters for his announcement.
     
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    Unlike the present occupant, you knew who was in charge and so did our enemies.
     
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    . . . Trump literally defended the invasion of Crimea and has said he'd be open to negotiating Russia's success in their current invasion.
     
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    'Had he worked' is what jumped out to me most in your post. But he didn't. He didn't want to learn - didn't have the patience. He underestimated the requirements of the job biggly and failed to make the significant changes he promised. His only real interest, as I could see, was standing in front of adoring crowds. It fed him. And he only needed to self promote and trash Dems and the crowd would go wild.
     
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