Why do blacks vote for democrats over 90% of the time?

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  1. Jolly Penguin

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    Because the Republicans don't even attempt to deliver in this regard? Failed promises to help are preferred over efforts in the opposite direction.
     
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    And it isn't just for Black people.

    Its for everyone who isn't rich and connected. Republicans are out for corporate interests. So are 90% of Democrats, only Democrats pretend to care about the common people, and dangle things like raising the minimum wage, universal health care, etc. If you're not rich or well connected, US politics offers you a choice between a tub of **** and half a tub of ****..
     
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    So you're suggesting its plausible that a meaningful number of the nations fastest growing gun rights organization might support forcible confiscation of assault rifles.

    I don't believe you believe that.

    But w/e.
     
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    What about the "Unite the Right" rally in Charlottesville in 2017? You know---"Jews will not replace us".
    They had pride and unity didn't they?
     
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    Where are they now? Haven't heard a peep from those people since.
     
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    Mandatory gun buyback is the same as background checks? Absolutely ridiculous. I don't believe mandatory gun buyback will ever happen. But ban of sales of assault weapons might happen.

    The country has been paralyzed for 40 years by Republicans. They have reconciliation to pass tax cuts on the rich and that's all they care about. Democrats need 60 votes to pass reform or can go nuclear -I say go nuclear. I think Obama refused to do it because he would have been an uppity negro.
     
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    hellofromwarsaw Well-Known Member

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    Try a real news outlet....
     
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    And yet the only actual spike in violence is right-wingers against Jews blacks gays Muslims and now Chinese LOL. The rate of such violence more than doubles in areas where Trump has his rallies....
     
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    mitchscove Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Unite the right was organized by a far left Democrat, Jason Kessler. It was a false flag operation.
     
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    mitchscove Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    There was no Southern Strategy. There was a sunbelt strategy that ran from sea to shining sea because of Nixon's home in CA, but Nixon didn't go after the racist Democrats. The Dixiecrat garbage is just that. A single Democrat became a Republican, Strom Thurmond --- One. Keep drinking the Koolaid.
     
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    Harris said "mandatory buybacks". Was she lying? For gungrabber votes?
     
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    For no rational reason whatsoever.
     
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    Harris said....

    "Do you believe in the mandatory buyback of quote-unquote assault weapons and whether or not you do, how does that idea not go against fundamentally the Second Amendment?" Andrew from Fordham University asked.

    "Great question. I do believe that we need to do buybacks and I'll tell you why," Harris responded. "First of all, let's be clear about what assault weapons are. They have been designed to kill a lot of human beings quickly. They are weapons of war with no place on the streets of a civil society. I've seen assault weapons kill babies and police officers."
    "A buyback program is a good idea. Now we need to do it the right way," Harris continued. "And part of that has to be, you know, buy back and give people their value, the financial value of what they have and not just take things from people that have value without compensating them. We need to do it the right way."
    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/ka...pports-a-mandatory-buyback-on-assault-weapons

    Harris wants to confiscate guns.
     
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    I read it...it was a speech. and I know his voting history.....it doesn't change what I also posted, whether you like it or not. Also, the link I provided tells the WHOLE story, so people lie about the "left" hiding the truth".

    Here's the whole thing for the objective reader http://www.politicalforum.com/index...90-of-the-time.576585/page-21#post-1071967227
     
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    It was an interview not a speech. He wasn't a politician so he didn't have a voting record. I don't think you read it.
     
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    And your point? No. How does that change the facts in my link? Then take heed. Already established. How does that change the facts in my link?
     
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    first off, spare me the promotional campaign with the "fastest growing" stuff. As compared to what? C'mon, seriously!

    And catch the "mandatory" part of a BUY BACK. Straight up confiscation doesn't pay, from what I know of history. In tough economic times, people with more than one type of weapon might be inclined to get a few extra bucks in the weekly budget. But like I said, I have serious doubts on the enactment of such (getting through Congress, State by state actions/reactions, etc.).
    Bottom line: my opinion holds just as much or little water as yours...difference is I'm not stating my opinion as a definite fact.
     
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    What is your point? JFK gutted the 1957 and 1960 Civil Rights Acts that Vice President Nixon pushed through the United States Senate. In 1960, Nixon was campaigning on a civil rights agenda. Kennedy wasn't.

    You won't find Kennedy on YouTube talking like this in the 1960 campaign:



    And on the campaign trail:

     
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    Your denial and revisionist clap trap mean NOTHING when compared to valid, documented fact. For your information: https://www.encyclopedia.com/social-sciences/applied-and-social-sciences-magazines/southern-strategy

    https://www.thenation.com/article/archive/dixiecrats-and-gop/

    https://www.takimag.com/article/the_dixiecrats_rise_again/
     
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    Reality check:

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...te-filibuster-record-75-days-1964/3228935001/
     
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    GMAFB! Atwater was adviser to US presidents Ronald Reagan and George H. W. Bush and chairman of the Republican National Committee. So his statements carry a hell of lot more weight than your desperate opinions. Period. You can't split that hair.
     
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    You obviously don't get it. I can explain it to you but, I can't understand it for you.
     
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    You should learn how to take your own advice. There is not enough latitude given on this board to refute what you've said in the manner it deserves. You drew first blood, but you have it easy. It's not worth me arguing over since anyone that's interested can read the thread.
     
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    Pot bellied guys with dental issues, smoking cigarettes; tattooed rednecks, guys that just got out of an insane asylum, or nazis was the media portrayal, was it not? And when Trump presumed that there were some decent people in the mix, the media crucified him. To this day, they remain silent. If they had a true leader that believed in unity, that would not have been one and done. No decent group would have taken that kind of arse whipping and not came back to clear their name. So, I see no unity.
     
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    If your southern strategy claptrap had any credence, this wouldn't have happened:
    https://www.270towin.com/1960_Election/interactive_map
    or this
    https://www.270towin.com/1968_Election/interactive_map

    Revision from Progressive projection? Glad to oblige.

    Blacks moved to Democrats in two steps. First after the New Deal, because even though the racist FDR tried to exclude blacks, blacks were so impoverished that the crumbs they got moved the needle:

    In 1932, Franklin D. Roosevelt lost the black vote overwhelmingly, receiving just 21% support from black Americans in Chicago (there were no national polling organizations).

    Such a loss was understandable, considering that the Democratic Party was the party of slavery and the party instigating segregation in the South. Moreover, the Democrats had made it clear that black Americans were unwelcome in the Democratic Party. In fact, Roosevelt, as undersecretary of the Navy, had actively assisted in President Woodrow Wilson's resegregation of the military.

    Roosevelt had even used the n-word in personal correspondence. Or, as Arthur Schlesinger, Jr. put it generously, Roosevelt “was fairly conventional in his racial attitudes.” Not surprisingly, there had never been any black Americans serving as delegates or alternate delegates to the Democratic National Convention.

    Yet just four years later, in 1936, the newly established Gallup Poll revealed that FDR had received 76% of the black vote.

    How could such a reversal happen in so short a time span? For nearly 70 years, the Republican Party had enjoyed near-monopoly support from black voters. After all, the first Republican President was Abraham Lincoln, who was responsible for freeing the slaves through the Emancipation Proclamation and the 13th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution.

    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...ck-vote-switched-will-2020-be-1936-in-reverse

    Second, lifelong racist LBJ realized that the country was not nearly as racist as it had been, so he transformed people who, on the southern Democrat rural plantation, worked but could not vote into a population that voted but did not work on the Democrat urban plantation.

    LBJ's urban plantation moved the needle from 76% to 90%.
     
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