Why do I love the WHITE Race?

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  1. J0NAH

    J0NAH Banned

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    Also the persians and hyksos never conquered AEgypt, they merely weakened it, enabling successive states to conquer, ie rome and greece. Thats the idea igot. Greece destroyed Egypt while the romans destroyed their envoy, Israel.
     
  2. donquixote99

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    I wouldn't say that what holds for individuals holds for nations. Nations are not big people. There's a sense in which Margaret thatcher was right when she said that "society doesn't exist," though she applied the concept poorly. But society or nations exist only as imperfectly shared ideas, ideas in the heads of individuals, who are what actually exists.

    Anyway, nations can go through cycles in their development, but they are completely different than the stages of individual development, and I don't think that speaking of 'juvenile' nations makes much sense. To understand nations, you look at their capabilities and traditions, which are a product of geography and history, and you look at what individuals and groups have power, what they may want, and how they may cooperate or compete. All this is pretty different (and more complicated) than how you figure out an individual.

    To understand why some nations are more warlike, and more successful in war, than others, think mainly of geography and history. Egypt unified early, so there were no centuries of war between small constituent states to hone military skills, reward martial spirit and punish it's lack. The situation was completely different in Greece and Italy. Think about things like that.

    As time goes on I think the same comparison, writ on a larger scale, goes between Western Europe and China.
     
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    No. Think culture. Culture.
    Culture.

    Culture.

    History is his story not mine and geography is geography, an ever revized border to your overstanding.

    Nations are like people as planets are like solar systems as solar systems are like galaxies etc. Open your mind and quit being so contrary.
     
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    The truth is that some people are less evolved, less advanced and so partake in such murderous ways as such killing themselves [ karma] not knowing true enlightenment. we are Not killers, we are lovers, fact, why would you wish death on yourself when you can love? Why? Because you are weak and in need of truth and knowledge that life is precious.
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The best white people are white Jews.

    They are good looking AND very intelligent!!!

    ;)
     
  6. donquixote99

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    Where the heck do you think culture comes from? I think it must be the dynamic interaction of the legacy culture (tradition, history) plus the environment (geography, bio-environment, and other humans groups).

    You can't just tell me to agree with you. You have to convince me.
     
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    This is just a version of US people good, THEM people bad. It's not advanced, it's not evolved, it's not new. It just feels good.
     
  8. Iolo

    Iolo Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What I was saying was that they weren't advanced militarily (I've just been attending a course of lectures that included a deal of stuff on this, but I am not deeply into ancient tactics - it was all explained in very tedious detail, however - stuff about lacking armour, adequate infantry formations, cavalry and so on). 'The West' is dominant because it developed capitalism first, and that system dominates the world currently - though other countries are catching up, they are forced to do so in a very 'western' way. The system depends on war, I think, and could never survive without it

    The Hyskos did rule Egypt, and so did the Persians, for however short a period. How far they influenced the Country is another matter - but we were talking about military history (which, by the way, is not a great interest of mine!).
     
  9. Shiva_TD

    Shiva_TD Progressive Libertarian Past Donor

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    It is interesting that "Western" history cites the origin of "capitalism" as being "European" originating during the Middle Ages but this is really Western revisionist history. When we look at trade routes where merchants traveled great distances to trade goods it was capitalism in practice and this goes back to prehistoric societies. The voluntary exchange of goods is capitalism. The barter system is capitalism and the barter system has existed long before recorded history.

    There is also the misconception that war is necessary for capitalism but traditionally war violates capitalism. War was about theft of the wealth of one people by another people. Wars of conquest were always related to theft by exercising "power" over another group of people. We can look at the conquests of Rome for example and it was all about "taxing" the people subjugated under the authority of Rome. The more land and people conquered the more wealth went into the pockets of the Romans.

    War itself violates the principles of Capitalism and wars are intended to benefit the few by the theft of wealth from the many.
     
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    Shiva_TD Progressive Libertarian Past Donor

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    There have been great advancing in knowledge, science, technology, and economics throughout human history accomplished by all people but we must caution ourselves when we look at these accomplishments. Historically the group in power is credited with the advancements but the group in power does so typically by exploitation of those subjected to the power. I've pointed this out related to the United States where we've accomplished much but have done so by exploitation of minorities and women in our culture. We would have advanced much further as a nation without the exploitation of minorities and women. Imagine how much better our economy would be today if 18% of the African-Americans seeking employment were working and contributing to our economy. Think about how much better our economy would be if women received the same compensation and employment opportunities as men.

    I think about the history of employment for women and 150 years ago a single unmarried woman could typically be a school teacher, a seamstress, or a whore. There wasn't many other "occupations" for a single unwed woman at the time. By the 1950's, after women had proven that they could perform jobs like manufacturing aircraft during WW II they were relegated back to jobs like secretary or waitress with few other economic opportunities. Even today someone brought up that there aren't many women working on oil drilling rigs. It isn't that they can't do the work and don't want the work but instead its because the employers won't hire them to do the work. How much better off would America be today if it wasn't for denial of economic equality for women?

    Yes, mankind has come a long ways but not nearly so far as we should have come. We continue to oppress people based upon bigotry and prejudice and I take no pride in that. Others might but I do not. I cannot proudly brag of my WASP background knowing the oppression that it also represents. We need to address the successes of mankind as a whole and not the success of any specific group that is linked to invidious oppression.
     
  11. Iolo

    Iolo Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Trade and capitalism are different things: capitalism means that the whole society is run for the benefit of those who profit by trade. Capitalism is, was and ever shall be based on theft, from working people and foreign countries. Do you think capitalists could face fair competition? Come ON! This is not about Europe but about power and money.
     
  12. Libhater

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    I just get a kick out of you European socialists. What or who in your mind could qualify as being 'fair competition' facing the capitalists? Be specific. And if not capitalism--what economic system would you replace it with that would make you happy? Be specific here.
     
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    What about REAL worth, forget this fake paper, gold is where it's at right?

    Unfortunately europeans have always been pretty backwards when it comes to 'growing' the bling.
     
  14. Libhater

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    Growing the bling? Say what?
     
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    Shiva_TD Progressive Libertarian Past Donor

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    How about a simple proposition? Instead of taking credit for what someone else might have accomplished based upon stereotyping we take pride and credit for what we personally accomplish.

    We can take pride in judging a person based upon the content of their character as opposed to the color of their skin.
    We can enjoy the variety of different cultures and the wealth they bring to America.
    We don't disparage others based upon invidious stereotyping such as race, religion, or ethnic heritage.
    We embrace the American ideal that all people are created equal.
    We actively fight against the oppression of others based upon race, gender, social or economic status where the "American Dream" is denied to them.
    We, as Americans, embrace the US Constitution as Supreme Law of the Land as the embodiment of the American Ideals established by the Declaration of Independence.
    We respect the Freedom of Religion as well as the Freedom From Religion in the United States that was founded as a secular, not sectarian, nation.
    We can take personal pride in the kind word or the assistance we offer to others.
    We can be proud of putting in that little extra effort at work that benefits the enterprise we work for.
    We can take pride in learning more about our actual history as a nation, both what we did right and what we've done wrong, in the hopes of becoming a better nation in the future.
    We can address the problems of the past and present and endeavor to prevent those problems in the future.

    There is much we might be proud of as individuals regardless of our skin color, our national origin, our religious on non-religious beliefs, or our ethnic background but we should limit our pride to that which we personally do as opposed to taking credit for what someone else might have done. Taking credit for the accomplishments of others is not something to be proud about because we can only have real pride in what we, as individuals, accomplish.
     
  16. Libhater

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    I take pride in what I've accomplished and or what I believe to be the great accomplishments of the United States of America because of the deeds that our WHITE Founders bestowed upon us.

    Nice theory to banter around, but the media and the leftists in America simply refused to consider the judge and jury's final ruling on the Martin/Zimmerman court case, but instead decided to make the decision a race baiting spectacle because of Martin's skin color.


    Are you currently enjoying the Mexican culture of crime, of illegal border crossing, of setting up house in America on our tax paying dime, flooding the hospitals at our expense, and the culture of La Raza as they seek to take over Southwestern U.S. to make it a Mexican state? How satisfied are you with having a dozen or so murders of black teens on any given weekend in Chicago alone, or the high stats on black imprisonment, broken families, school dropouts, fatherless homes, unwed single crack whore mothers and race baiters like al Sharpton and Jessie Jackson fueling the race flames on a daily basis? I just don't see anyone enjoying these different cultures the way you seem to be doing.

    I'll be sure to keep that in mind next time I go to the confessional booth where I'll ask for forgiveness for presenting my facts about life.

    Most people do embrace the ideal that all people are created equal, but the problem comes when people use that ideal as a crutch and then expect to remain equal by redistributing some of the $$ from the producers to the poor, or create leftist programs like affirmative action and quotas so as to make sure they remain equal.


    I don't believe anyone in America is oppressed. Oppression is another Marxist ideal that is currently being played out in America under the auspices of one Balack Hussein Obama to weaken our society to the point of spending much of our capital babying the non producers/leeches of society.


    I wonder if you think the Constitution breaking Obama to be one of those that is embracing it.


    Over 90% of our Founders were Christians, and as such, were ruled by GOD.


    That's exactly what we all do at our Tea Party meetings.

    Absolutely, and most of that work comes right off of my computer in form of helping every Conservative entity we have in our nation.


    Yup, you get no argument from me with that one. I really should be teaching a course in early American history.


    You'll see me addressing the failures of past school busing and integration by suggesting we consider segregation as the perfect remedy.

    Balderdash!!!! I wouldn't have the opportunity nor the historical background and heritage to accomplish and believe in much of anything if it were not for my WHITE Christian ancestors and FOUNDERS of America.
     
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    Nobody loves 'the white race', obviously, because no such thing exists. What racists love is some sort of excuse to hate, bully and kill, as we now see.
     
  18. Libhater

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    I can just picture you with your scrawny lily-white arse walking the streets of Harlem at midnight when confronted by a gang of black hoodlums who are ready to slit yer throat and you telling them there is no such thing as race, and besides--no one loves the 'black race' anyway because no such thing exists.
     
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    lol. Not sure what I was getting at there.Point being, europeans have always had to steal gold, never able to produce it themselves.
    Maybe thats why europeans have become a nation of thieves.
     
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    Generally people get killed because of the way they 'walk'. Obviously if you walked through Crown Heights you would not be able to survive. If I did, I can guarantee I would come back telling people what an honour it was to have been there. Truth is, If you know and respect the the predicament as shown in the bible you will get respect.
     
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    You'll like the tomato bubble:

    http://tomatobubble.com/id107.html

    and the American Freedom Party.
     
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    It predates whitey. We've been conquering each other for centuries. The babylonians and persians and greeks were around a long time before we started European conquest. We just had guns.
     
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    Oh yeah, I'm well aware of the plans of the One World Order people (mostly jews) to control the world. We have our work cut out for us in stopping Obama's socialist/Marxist push toward a similar if not the same ideology. One of Obama's bedtime partners from my avatar is now dead, but did you see where N. Korea are getting shipments of (surface to air) SAM's from Cuba and Obama is no where to be found? Be vigilant my man.
     
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    What? There was someone else who colonized and committed genocide on every continent on earth?

    Who was this man?
     
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    "All continents" required a combination of technical ability and competitiveness between nation states that happened to occur in Europe. But others did what they could. The Mongols were hell on wheels in their time, I understand....
     

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