central planning and the coercive use of force of the State is a hallmark of communism, not capitalism, person on the right.
Your appeal to ignorance is a failure on your part. Exposition: An appeal to ignorance is an argument for or against a proposition on the basis of a lack of evidence against or for it. If there is positive evidence for the conclusion, then of course we have other reasons for accepting it, but a lack of evidence by itself is no evidence. Exposure: There are a few types of reasoning which resemble the fallacy of Appeal to Ignorance, and need to be distinguished from it: 1.Sometimes it is reasonable to argue from a lack of evidence for a proposition to the falsity of that proposition, when there is a presumption that the proposition is false. For instance, in American criminal law there is a presumption of innocence, which means that the burden of proof is on the prosecution, and if the prosecution fails to provide evidence of guilt then the jury must conclude that the defendant is not guilty. Similarly, the burden of proof is usually on a person making a new or improbable claim, and the presumption may be that such a claim is false. For instance, suppose that someone claims that the president was taken by flying saucer to another planet, but when challenged can supply no evidence of this unusual trip. It would not be an Appeal to Ignorance for you to reason that, since there is no evidence that the president visited another planet, therefore he probably didn't do so. 2.We sometimes have meta-knowledge—that is, knowledge about knowledge—which can justify inferring a conclusion based upon a lack of evidence. For instance, schedules—such as those for buses, trains, and airplanes—list times and locations of arrivals and departures. Such schedules usually do not attempt to list the times and locations when vehicles do not arrive or depart, since this would be highly inefficient. Instead, there is an implicit, understood assumption that such a schedule is complete, that all available vehicle departures and arrivals have been listed. Thus, we can reason using the following sort of enthymeme: There is no departure/arrival listed in the schedule for location L at time T. Suppressed Premiss: All departures and arrivals are listed in the schedule. Therefore, there is no departure/arrival for location L at time T. This kind of completeness of information assumption is often called the "closed world assumption". When it is reasonable to accept this assumption—as with plane or bus schedules—it is not a fallacy of appeal to ignorance to reason this way. 3.Another type of reasoning is called "auto-epistemic" ("self-knowing") because it involves reasoning from premisses about what one actually knows and what one would know if something were true. The form of such reasoning is: If p were true, then I would know that p. I don't know that p. Therefore, p is false. For instance, one might reason: If I were adopted, then I would know about it by now. I don't know that I'm adopted. Therefore, I wasn't adopted. Similarly, when extensive investigation has been undertaken, it is often reasonable to infer that something is false based upon a lack of positive evidence for it. For instance, if a drug has been subjected to lengthy testing for harmful effects and none has been discovered, it is then reasonable to conclude that it is safe. Another example is: If there really were a large and unusual type of animal in Loch Ness, then we would have undeniable evidence of it by now. We don't have undeniable evidence of a large, unfamiliar animal in Loch Ness. Therefore, there is no such animal. As with reasoning using the closed world assumption, auto-epistemic reasoning does not commit the fallacy of Argument from Ignorance. you are such a loser...................your appeal to ignorance..................you have nothing of substance.
Which ignorance is that, person on the right? central planning and the coercive use of force of the State is a hallmark of communism, not capitalism - - - Updated - - - red herrings are still non sequiturs.
That's not what you said........... Quote Originally Posted by publican View Post me-----Since when is war communism and since when does a lack of capitalism cause war? you--------It is self-evident that War requires central planning and the coercive use of force of a State, except to the right. - - - Updated - - - Make up mind mind. Is war communism or not? Using your twisted logic a police force is communist, anarchist of the left.
dude, if you want to quibble, simply having a nationalized and socialized, public sector is a form of socialism, not for-profit capitalism. - - - Updated - - - Nothing but fallacy for your Cause, and preaching the "gospel Truth" about others, even if not the wealth of others; how socialist of you.
No, I merely understand that you don't have a clue or a Cause, but for your "canned" propaganda and rhetoric; i get it. The military is an example of functioning communism.
simple rejection is not a valid refutation; nothing but diversion and that form of fallacy for your Cause; i got it.
red herrings are still non sequiturs - - - Updated - - - you are the one who only has fallacy for your Cause - - - Updated - - - supremest law of the land every once in a while to ensure you don't Appeal to Ignorance of it. - - - Updated - - - it helps if you have more than a shilling's worth of propaganda and rhetoric at your disposal.
http://conservativetribune.com/armed-gangs-black-panthers/ ALERT: Armed Gangs of Black Panthers Are Now Openly Patrolling Neighborhoods [PHOTOS] Tuesday, January 6th, 2015 Ah, finally. A gun club President Barack Obama can support. The New Black Panther Party has been suspiciously silent since their unfortunate part in the Ferguson debacle. Thankfully, for those of you following the zany antics of Eric Holders favorite group of militants, theyve popped up again. This time, theyre fronting a paramilitary firearms organization in Texas. The Huey P. Newton Gun Club (really? You couldnt even use H. Rap Brown or Stokely Carmichael as a namesake?) has been conducting armed drills in Dallas for some time now. The club was founded by Charles Goodson, described as a 31-year-old dreadlocked vegan, and Darren X, who is the national field marshal for the New Black Panther Party. We accept all oppressed people of color with weapons, Darren X told Vice. The complete agenda involves going into our communities and educating our people on federal, state and local gun laws. We want to stop fratricide, genocide all the cides. I would like to here reiterate that this is neither a joke nor a Chappelles Show sketch. Given its frontier reputation, Texas is surprisingly one of the few states that doesnt allow concealed carry. However, it does allow the open carry of firearms, which the group uses to an alarming effect. The group has been conducting armed patrols through Dallas, where they performed a call and response saying things like This is perfectly legal! and Justice for Michael Brown! Justice for Eric Garner! Right wingers should all be applauding at this news. But isn't it strange that the conservative writer should refer to them as "gangs". Nah, actually it's no surprise considering that he is a right winger. - - - Updated - - - http://conservativetribune.com/armed-gangs-black-panthers/ ALERT: Armed Gangs of Black Panthers Are Now Openly Patrolling Neighborhoods [PHOTOS] Tuesday, January 6th, 2015 Ah, finally. A gun club President Barack Obama can support. The New Black Panther Party has been suspiciously silent since their unfortunate part in the Ferguson debacle. Thankfully, for those of you following the zany antics of Eric Holders favorite group of militants, theyve popped up again. This time, theyre fronting a paramilitary firearms organization in Texas. The Huey P. Newton Gun Club (really? You couldnt even use H. Rap Brown or Stokely Carmichael as a namesake?) has been conducting armed drills in Dallas for some time now. The club was founded by Charles Goodson, described as a 31-year-old dreadlocked vegan, and Darren X, who is the national field marshal for the New Black Panther Party. We accept all oppressed people of color with weapons, Darren X told Vice. The complete agenda involves going into our communities and educating our people on federal, state and local gun laws. We want to stop fratricide, genocide all the cides. I would like to here reiterate that this is neither a joke nor a Chappelles Show sketch. Given its frontier reputation, Texas is surprisingly one of the few states that doesnt allow concealed carry. However, it does allow the open carry of firearms, which the group uses to an alarming effect. The group has been conducting armed patrols through Dallas, where they performed a call and response saying things like This is perfectly legal! and Justice for Michael Brown! Justice for Eric Garner! Right wingers should all be applauding at this news. But isn't it strange that the conservative writer should refer to them as "gangs". Nah, actually it's no surprise considering that he is a right winger.
since you go this wrong, the rest of your rant is irrelevant http://www.txdps.state.tx.us/rsd/chl/index.htm
The Huey P. Long gun club is in a very poor neighborhood with a serious distrust for police. The NBP are what those people want and for now, they are not hurting anybody. Yes they are racists, but until they break the law, I don't care what they do in their neighborhood. If the people of South Dallas don't like it they can speak up.
off topic, there is no Appeal to Ignorance on your part. Our Supreme Law says we can own them, and carry. red herrings are still non sequiturs. Ignorance of our Supreme Law is no excuse California's Constitution is not the supreme law except for in California.
You are welcome to re-state your position, it must not have been very cogent the first time. - - - Updated - - - I don't need to appeal to ignorance of the law since I can merely copy and paste since I am not trying to "legislate", any Thing.
What lack of proof is that? Are you claiming we would be worse off with better aqueducts and roads built by gun lovers performing their chore for their Republic, after disturbing the domestic Tranquility and security of our free States, with or without their Arms.
there is no Appeal to Ignorance on your part. red herrings are still non sequiturs. Ignorance of our Supreme Law is no excuse. "On every occasion [of Constitutional interpretation] let us carry ourselves back to the time when the Constitution was adopted, recollect the spirit manifested in the debates, and instead of trying [to force] what meaning may be squeezed out of the text, or invented against it, [instead let us] conform to the probable one in which it was passed." - Thomas Jefferson
Our Second Amendment clearly enumerates what is necessary to the security of a free State, not what is necessary for rights in private property; there is no Appeal to Ignorance of the Intent and Purpose of the Second Article of Amendment.
