"If you wish the sympathy of the broad masses, you must tell them the crudest and most stupid things." author unknown
dear person on the right, this is our supreme law of the land of a State The specific Terms expressed are, acquire and possess, to denote Individual rights in private property which may include the class called Arms. There is no appeal to ignorance of the law.
I could rant and rave or wax and wane poetically or make a good debate about why firearms are good or bad safe or not beneficial to our fellows, etc etc. I could make an appeal to the sensibilities of anti firearm people about the economic benefits of firearms etc. however I have already tried that. Anyway the SCOTUS has ruled in favor of we USA citizens that love our firearms, interpreting the 2nd amendment to say it says we Americans can keep and bear firearms without belonging to a militia. They say it’s a right. I say its an natural RIGHT and now it’s a positive right which means mans law backs it up. So sorry anti gunners we win. Is it fair judgment? I do care but I care more that I love in a nation, an SOVEREIGN nation that is unique. I do not want to come to your country and change your laws, and I don’t want you here trying to change your traditions laws or birthrights. In the latter I am addressing the UN Islamic Sharia law, or the world court whos rulings effect my nations laws. I will not bother them so they or their people shouldn’t do the same here in the good USA. Oh I about forgot...why do I need an assault rifle cannon mortars howitzers of all bores, chain guns, oh a fav but obsolete 30.06 BAR, and another fav the ma duce a BMG .50 cal beast....why why WHY? Because daddy oh ~ its my right...to own some firearms.... reva
"Firearms stand next in importance to the constitution itself. They are the American people's liberty teeth and keystone under independence from the hour the Pilgrims landed to the present day, events, occurences and tendencies prove that to ensure peace security and happiness, the rifle and pistol are equally indispensable the very atmosphere of firearms anywhere restrains evil interference they deserve a place of honor with all that's good." George Washington First President of the United States it helps if you have more than a shilling's worth of propaganda and rhetoric at your disposal I can do this all day, Daniel - - - Updated - - - …nothing but diversion instead of posting a more cogent argument to better advance your Cause; i got it. Thank you for ceding the point and the argument you couldn't seem to come up with for the greater glory of your Cause.
Discussions like this are likely to cost me about $900. I've been discussing the sense of getting an AR carbine with myself lately. If I do, it will probably be as light and stripped as possible, with iron sights. Just something more effective to carry around in the back country than my Glock 17L. I don't "need" that carbine, because I already have a marvelous little Yugo AK underfolder that serves that exact purpose. The M4gery would further bother those who believe that such things only belong in the realm of established militias. That's almost reason enough....
I'm pretty happy with my Daniel Defense M4v5 LW I use mine for home defense with Coyote Varmint rounds to prevent penetration. A short barreled AR-15 would make much more sense ,but I can't do that without filing for the NFA tax stamp which is just a pain in the but.
According to the wording and spirit of the 2A, I am the "militia" who defends me, and anyone around me who is attacked, by whomsoever, and for whysoever. There; I made a new word. There is no excuse for ignorance of my Liberties.
Consider an AR "pistol" with an arm brace. What a versatile little thing that is! Oh, and welcome to the forum!
He is confused because he doesn't understand what the phrase 'well-regulated' meant to those who wrote it into our Constitution. I tried to enlighten him, but those who choose to be blind will never see.
someone once told me, that in the days of the past, "well-regulated" meant the government insured that powder and ball was to be made available at costs only.
In an attempt to illuminate what that phrase really means, I posted this in another thread: The answer I received was: "dude ...bla bla... appeal to ignorance... bla bla.... clue and Cause... bla bla.." This hinges well with the Thomas Jefferson quote you posted earlier that had to do with how the Constitution should be interpreted as it meant to the people who wrote it. Those who interpret 'well-regulated' to mean 'lots of government regulation' do not understand what the phrase meant to the men who placed it into our Constitution, because it means the exact opposite of what they need it to mean to support their erroneous positions.
So if the Constitution was actually referring to a " functioning as expected milita " or perhaps a " well calibrated militia " how does that have any bearing on individual gun ownership unless those individuals are part of a well calibrated or functioning as expected organization. And one certainly would not consider America as either well calibrated or functioning as expected. - - - Updated - - - Now all one has to do is post Jefferson's definition of militia.
I ask sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people except for a few politicians." - George Mason (father of the Bill of Rights and The Virginia Declaration of Rights) all of the founding fathers shared this view. but... http://famguardian.org/Subjects/Politics/ThomasJefferson/jeff1480.htm what does a militia have to do with owning guns?
