Why do liberals want to punish hard work and success?

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by Leftcoastconservative, Dec 15, 2011.

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What makes more sense?

  1. Punish hard working people for their succes with extreme tax rates

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  2. We should institute a fair, flat tax that does not reduce liberty by redistributing wealth

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  1. Leftcoastconservative

    Leftcoastconservative New Member

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    Why do liberals want to punish people for working hard? Taxing the successful is pointless. They never even use government services! On the other hand, the lazy people who refuse to work hard are let off the hook! Shouldn't we be raising their tax instead, because they are the ones using government services.
     
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    Leftcoastconservative New Member

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    http://www.akdart.com/lib2.html
    Liberals appear to have no original ideas of their own.(*) All they can do is obstruct and oppose conservatives, when conservatives make proposals.(*) Typically, when a liberal realizes he's losing a debate, he will start shouting down his opponents.

    When leftist Democrats realize they are outvoted, one of their favorite tactics is to flee the state in order to bring their state's government to a halt, rather than face defeat.
     
  3. Subdermal

    Subdermal Banned

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    Your answer demonstrates that you believe that Conservatives are the ones who are the target of such a system of taxation.

    Thank you for your admission.
     
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    hoytmonger New Member

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    Taxing people who earn is the only way for the state to keep afloat. The money they create goes to foreign central banks, and the money thy borrow goes to paying the interest on the money they've borrowed previously.

    Screw the services, they suck.
     
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    Awryly New Member Past Donor

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    Poor conservatives (bless their dopey souls) receive the munificence of the state no less than poor liberals.

    The only difference is that poor conservatives rabbit on about big government.

    Thus having pie and also eating it.
     
  6. Leftcoastconservative

    Leftcoastconservative New Member

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    But why tax them at such a steeper rate??? Flat tax generates more income because the wealthy will no longer store their wealth in tax havens
     
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    Because the are more lazy people who are unsuccessful than hardworking successful people and the democrats win elections by pitting the two against eachother.
     
  8. Brewskier

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    As another left coast conservative, I think you know which option I voted for.
     
  9. Subdermal

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    Too bad your initial response illustrates something else.
     
  10. Awryly

    Awryly New Member Past Donor

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    All I said was that they are deadly dull.

    I have seen nothing from you that disproves that.
     
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    Beevee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What do you do with your garbage? Eat it?
     
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    It is part of that social justice bullcrap that you take from the haves to give to the have nots because it is socially justified to systematically steal from others to make everyone equal. In the eyes of a progressive that is.

    To me it is systematic theft so you know what I voted for...
     
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    You chose to parse an answer to declare that conservatives would be the target of these taxes mentioned in the OP.

    Thanks for your admission.

    As it is the case with regularly handling dull knives...

    ...they are the ones which cut you.

    Go find a bandaid.
     
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    This thread is garbage because it makes an assertion without providing any evidence or argument.

    We might just as well ask the question: "Why are all Conservatives pederasts?" or "Why are all Presidential candidates wife beaters?".

    By the way, there is no evidence linking Liberals to a dislike of hard work or success.

    There is even less evidence linking hard work to success in America since the linkage between inherited or familial wealth and success is stronger than anywhere else in the developed world.

    See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gini_coefficient
     
  15. Brewskier

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    Very nice first post! Welcome.
     
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    Why are conservatives so obsessed with inventing straw men?
     
  17. frodly

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    Yay straw men from the first post!! You are new, so in order to help you join the ranks of acceptable debaters as quickly as possible. Read through these

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fallacies

    And avoid them. The most prevalent ones at this forum are straw men, which you are already guilty in your first post. However on top of that, you should do your best to avoid red herrings and appeals to tradition, 2 other very popular routes people take at this forum!!


    Some friendly advice from a long time poster, who is also incredibly sick of the endless streams of straw men created at this forum!!
     
  18. Leftcoastconservative

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    I mean SOCIAL SERVICES. Like Medicaid, welfare, public housing...
     
  19. Brewskier

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    Thanks for showing ad-hominem. Your posts are very educational on the subject of logical fallacies.
     
  20. Brewskier

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    Yeah, he/she knows. That's the kind of game liberals like to play around here.
     
  21. Awryly

    Awryly New Member Past Donor

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    No admission required. I accused conservatives merely of being dull.

    To which I will add:

    ... alchemy.

    Which, I have to admit, might be more entertaining.
     
  22. frodly

    frodly Well-Known Member

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    Point out examples please!! I point out examples of yours all the time, do the same next time you see it from me.
     
  23. Brewskier

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    That would require giving your posts more consideration than I feel comfortable with, but since you asked so nicely, from your last post

     
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    Because they want what everyone else worked hard for and has without actually doing the hard work.
     
  25. frodly

    frodly Well-Known Member

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    You fail, that doesn't even come close!!


    PS. You are trying to claim that was ad hominem, but it wasn't. I responded to their statement, and then gave that aside at that end. Ad hominem exists in place of argument. Like here.


     

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