Why do non-whites feel the need to move into white areas?

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  1. release03

    release03 New Member

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    YOU wouldn't be alive today if it weren't for Africans.

    You should have stayed in your caves in Europe instead of spreading violence and chaos on every culture you've came in contact with. Stop acting like you are giving Africans and other cultures something that was already theirs. You are the one that had and have nothing.

    In fact, this world would be a better place if you never existed.

    The US doesn't belong to whites and has NEVER belonged to whites. You are just upset because whites don't have anything and never will truly have anything in this world.
     
  2. Brewskier

    Brewskier Well-Known Member

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    "Same concerns"? No. Asians have not exhibited the same destructive results on previously nice areas that blacks and Hispanics, have. Crime statistics are probably the best example I can give. Asians, statistically, commit far less crime than blacks and Hispanics.

    Why is that? People have opinions that offend your delicate politically correct sensibilities? That's why this forum is so bad? Feel free to take your trolling business elsewhere, then.

    That's the typical excuse that anti-racists use when they can't argue the topic effectively. You couldn't even begin to explain why I am wrong, so, rather than appear foolish, you'd rather act "too good" to discuss the issue. Your act is transparent and tired.
     
  3. J0NAH

    J0NAH Banned

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    Why is it that where ever whites go violence follows? Every nation they "visit" or "colonize" they have to kill the indigenous and misrule.

    Africa, Australia, India, America, the only place they never succeeded in killing thousands was China and look who completely OWNS europeans now, China!
     
  4. Truthist

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    Give examples of how great stone age Africa was. This should be really good.

    This behavior was enabled by superior technology, something that blacks have never had, and never will have.

    The flip side of that coin is that whites also did a tremendous amount of good in Africa. Whites built telegraph and telephone lines, railroads, hospitals, and schools, things that were absent in stone age, ass backwards sub-Saharan Africa. :)

    Source? Note: melanist garbage doesn't constitute a reputable source.

    If you're claiming that blacks are superior to whites then it is incumbent on you to explain their (*)(*)(*)(*) poor situation worldwide. If you're going to claim that this is because of "white oppression", then it is likewise incumbent on you to explain how inferior whites were able to subjugate superior blacks in the first place, LMAO.
     
  5. J0NAH

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    I will give you a history lesson like you never experienced because the people who influenced you were fed on bosom milk and never received an adult education.

    This is proven through studying the archives found in places like the British Museum and by this I am guessing you are not British born or raised.

    European were living in caves that were created by the earths crust erupting to the surface and as such became the abode of pure circumstance.

    Africans were building the Giza Complex, look it up. These pyramid structure are amazing you just could not comprehend such so yes, you have a bit to study first then you might want to ask me some questions and I would be obliged, if I can find the time.
     
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    Semitic Caucasoids != blacks, and Europeans lived in caves long before that was built.
     
  7. J0NAH

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    Is that some kind of disease?

    Seriously though, I think you are attempting to state that white ppl built the Pyramids but are too ashamed to say outright, I don't blame you, that's quite a juvenile line of thinking and deserves no merit.
     
  8. saturn

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    According to Herodotus, Egyptians were Black people.

    Aristotle: "The Ethiopians an Egyptians are very black.”
    According to Herodotus, Egyptians had "“black skin and wooly hair".
     
  9. saturn

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    Then I have a question for you. There are many, decent, law-abiding Black Americans who are seeking to get away from the ghetto culture. I have pretty much disassociated myself with ghetto culture and returned to the things that are good about Black culture, such as the church, Motown, jazz, etc. Here is a question I pose for you. Why are the gangs and criminals(who happen to be Black) often follow regular Black people, who seek to get away from the gangs and crime? You gripe about Blacks and other non-White people moving into White areas. Last time I checked, Blacks will move to wherever they can so they can be safe and have good schools for their children. Do you have any solutions to the problems that Black people are facing, such as having a higher risk of getting killed than anyone else?
     
  10. Brewskier

    Brewskier Well-Known Member

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    Suggestions? The whole culture has to change. The culture shouldn't be glorifying a lifestyle that encourages drug use, selling drugs, loose women, gang membership, etc. Young black men need to stop knocking up their teenage girlfriends and then running away. Education needs to become a central part of the black culture because there is an achievement gap, regardless of the reason, so blacks should work harder to close it. Blacks need to stop blaming everybody but themselves for the condition of their communities. As long as scapegoating is the answer, nothing will get done. I think the work ethic in black communities needs to change, as well. Hispanics are taking the jobs that once went to blacks, but they are working harder as a group than blacks typically do, so employers are more likely to hire Hispanics over blacks.

    I can offer suggestions, but the change is going to have to come from within the black community. Black males, 73% of which do not grow up with a father figure in their lives, need another leader to come in and lead them in a positive direction. Idiots like Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson are dividing people and stirring up hatred... nothing more. And the New Black Panthers? They're going to start a race war, at the rate they are going.
     
  11. saturn

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    It sounds easy enough, but it isn't that simple. And I'm not saying that the culture doesn't need to change, because it does. However, how do you get people to change. Black people who are being decent, who are not giving into the ghetto culture, are the ones I'm worried about. They are adopting a better culture because they know it is in their favor to be fathers to their children, to focus on education, and taking responsibility for themselves. What do they do to be safe in this time, right now? I ask this because when Bill Cosby gave his speeches about changing Black culture for the better, he got some disturbing responses. There are many people who won't listen. My father listened because his parents were drilling it into his head to get an education and do be a responsible person. The fruits of that lives through me. He went to college, got a bachelors and a masters degree in engineering. I'm in college and should be graduating by the end of this semester or the summer. He listened, he passed it on to me, and I listened. The ones who don't listen often won't listen because they never have. My younger brother is in college right now. He has some friends who got into trouble with the law. He used to hang around them, but my father knew about those kids. One of them was selling drugs. My father was worried about the bad influences my brother would get caught up in. Ironic because I know his friend's older sister. She never got into that kind of crap.
     
  12. J0NAH

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    Unfortunately that is american culture where sex and violence are promoted throught the media networks. It is not exclusive to the so- called black culture. The american military is in every country causing trouble, their corporations are extorting millions from foreign relations and your police force is corrupt and brutal. So called black culture doesn't promote sex and violence, THE MEDIA DOES! The reason "some" forms of rap music are aggressive is due to many factors. Initially it [gangsta rap] was a spin off of gang culture, a culture that arose out of police brutality.
     
  13. saturn

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    Thank you for pointing that out. Sometimes we get so fixated on race, that we are forgetting that this crap is not exclusive to Black culture. I lived around quite a few White people who behaved this way. I can name a few White people from my old high school who had babies out of wedlock. In my high school, which was 75-80% White at the time, alot of people dropped out of school. My freshman class was over 400 people. On my graduation day, there were about 245 people who graduated. It isn't just Blacks.

    Some forms of media do promote the aggressive rap music, and gang culture.
     
  14. Brewskier

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    Fair points. And for the record, I never said these problems existed amongst all black people. I realize that many are decent, law-abiding, educated members of society (sounds like your family, based on what I'm hearing), but overall, I see blacks as a destructive group, overall. You're right, the response to Cosby and other's like him is very negative. They see him as an Uncle Tom, or some other kind of sellout, and that is really sad. The man speaks the truth.

    I have no suggestions for a short-term fix. I don't think there is one, personally. This will have to take several generations of people standing up and rejecting the culture and mindset that has caused this destructive path that blacks are on. I have a feeling things will get worse before they get better...
     
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    The only short term fix I can think of is to get the decent, law-abiding Black people away from the criminals and ghetto culture, and try to do something about the criminals and ghetto culture. I say the reject of ghetto culture starts with the church. It continues to rejecting rap music. That is what I see in the short term. If middle class Americans(all of them) stop listening to rap music, that will put a dent in the record companies. Middle class Blacks need an out from the ghetto. My father got out of the ghetto. By accident, we lived in an area that was somewhat sketchy. Within an year, we got out of them and moved out to a rural area. He wanted to make sure his children weren't raised in the ghetto culture. He didn't have "ghetto culture" in his home growing up. However, he graduated from high school in the 70's, and was watching the cities de-industrialize, and watched the new "ghetto culture" form into the 1980's. What happened between the early 1970's and 80's leaves alot to discuss.
     
  16. Brewskier

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    The thing with rap that I don't understand... why is it so influential on the black community? I listen to a lot of extreme heavy metal with subject matter that would put some rap songs to shame, but it's not like the music has changed me. Maybe it would for certain whites, I don't know. Maybe it's because the lyrics are so over the top in the songs I listen to, whereas in rap, it's believable stuff that could have an effect?
     
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    Why don't you just move to Idaho? Hayden Lake is nice in the summer.
     
  18. Brewskier

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    Idaho would be nice.

    I wonder how long the men behind the curtains would allow that area to stay almost all white?
     
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    You know what I can't figure out?.....

    Is why I was raised in an integrated neighborhood, with racial gang violence that I was a part of sometimes, and I live in an integrated neighborhod now.......yet I'm not afraid of, or resentful, to other races.

    How does that happen?
     
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    Perhaps it is education level. Are the people where you live educated?
     
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    You mean the KKK? It was actually some Neo-Nazi group. I remember living in the Seattle area. The family wanted to take a trip. However, he needed to drive through northern Idaho. My father was basically scared because of the influence of the hate groups that were there and being a Black family with small children.

    Further, Blacks are moving to Idaho in large numbers than ever before in the state's history. I think many are trying to escape some of the stuff in California.
     
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    My neighborhood is a mixed bag education wise, but we have just about all the diversity same as anywhere in CA.

    I didn't learn to be tolerant in the old neighborhood, or college. I learned to be tolerant when I lived abroad, and realized that the whole world doesn't revolve around European Americans.

    It's a humbling experience to live in a place where your language skills make you sound stupid compared to the fluent speakers of the mother tounge.

    It's humbling to realize the world is full of very happy people who don't: live in America, watch cable all the time, own a car, and have the strongest military.
     
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    Politically correct multiculturalism has a way of blinding people.
     
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    Doesn't surprise me. Gotta diversify any place where whites are the overwhelming majority.
     
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    It isn't just the lyrics...plenty of rock, pop, & metal has lyrics just as shocking as any gangsta rap. I work with someone who listens to rap & metal...he loves Insane Clown Posse. He referred to a novelty folk song I have as "The freakiest thing I have ever heard," and a nine-minute guitar ballad as "the most disturbing song I have ever heard."

    The songs are Dr. Hook's Freakin At The Freakers' Ball and Harry Chapin's Sniper, respectively.
     

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