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Why do people laugh at Creationists?

Discussion in 'Religion & Philosophy' started by Wolverine, Oct 11, 2011.

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  1. Neutral

    Neutral New Member Past Donor

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    Because I used the one you atheists routinely link me too.

    This is exactly what I say about you guys, you change you beliefs on a dime just be obstinate and disagee with anything a Christian says.
     
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    Neutral New Member Past Donor

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    Question: Can a narcassist hate himself?

    Just curious?
     
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    You should know....
     
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    You're confused, it was you who came up with two different definitions, not Panzer.

    Tsk, tsk.... the bashing is kinda backfiring. :mrgreen:
     
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  5. DBM aka FDS

    DBM aka FDS Well-Known Member

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    I think you “atheist” need to take a step back and ask yourself some questions and understand one phenomenon. Water on this planet. The phenomenon is – the water salt content (forgot the actual name – but it has one) has stayed the same since the beginning of this planet.

    How did that happen?

    We don’t know actually. By what we put in the oceans (animals – aquatic and land) the salt levels should rise, but they don’t. Lab work suggest that when salt water evaporates (oceans) the salt stays in the water. There are things called “watersheds” pushing debris into streams, creeks, then rivers that dump out into oceans. Everything goes after a rainfall. Why do you not drink from a river or a creek after it rains? Well, there you go- all that crap is going to the ocean.

    So… atheist with all your science and knowledge – how does the ocean keep the same level of salt over billions of years?
     
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  6. Wolverine

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    A consistent water cycle? Duh.
     
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  7. DBM aka FDS

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    Really? What constant water cycle? What are you talking about... Water evaporates and the salt stays...

    Ooops... I forgot something. Let me tell you that salt gets brought into the ocean from rivers, along with a whole bunch of other crap. It might not be much per gallon, but it comes in with the salt that is already present. So, why is the salitity of the ocean still the same?

    Sorry, I keep forgetting that sometimes I am posting to people who don't know biology. I apologize...
     
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  8. Wolverine

    Wolverine New Member Past Donor

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    Has the salt water consisted of X% of the salt for its entire existence?

    Yes or no.
     
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  9. WongKimArk

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    Actually... no. This is not obviously true. There certainly was a point at which the seas reached general stasis... but this is simply due to the residence time of salt in seawater. Prior to that time, the seas were (by all evidence) significantly less salty than they are today.

    Stasis is reached when salt in = salt out. And the mechanisms for removing salt from seawater are several. This include the formation of evaporites (salt deposits left behind when seawater evaporates), burial of sediment porewater (the water between sediment grains), sediments (especially biogenic sediments) that incorporate Ca2+ (calcium ion) as calcium carbonate, and hydrothermal vents (especially formation of the mineral chlorite within the cracks and fissures of the vents).
     
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    While focusing on salt input have you ever examined any output, DBM aka FDS? Have you ever thought to yourself, "Hmm, if the salinity stays the same and rivers, volcans and so on still continue to bring sodium into the oceans then maybe there is an output somewhere that, I dunno, range within close vicinity of the input?"
     
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    Well, the answer isn't in biology, it's geology.

    The salinity stays constant because water evaporates out at salt flats, leaving salt deposits. Salt also is deposited in ocean sediments.
     
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    Equating down to the exact number no. But, there is a tolerance that it has withheld since its entire existence yes.
     
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    Well, the answer isn't in biology, it's geology.

    The salinity stays constant because water evaporates out at salt flats, leaving salt deposits. Salt also is deposited in ocean sediments.
     
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    No. Not its entire existence.
     
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    Incorrect... http://sci.odu.edu/sci/Scire/05Edition/salty.html

    Scientists believe that ocean salinity has remained the same for the last 1.5 billion years.

    There is more, but you can look it up. But, it's pretty much been constant at 3.2 - 3.7... If my memory is correct...
     
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    Salt is a mineral... What is the output for the mineral salt...
     
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    Ooo - that was good... REP!!!

    But, that, as you well know, doesn't count for "all the salt" nor the nonfluxuation within the ocean and it's salinity...
     
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    Okay... Half it's life... couple billion years or so it's been within the tolerance...

    My mistake...:roll:
     
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    Since the earth's oldest sedimentary rocks are 3.9 billion years old, that only gets you about 38% of the way there.
     
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  20. WongKimArk

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    From about ten posts previous to your question:

     
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    Provide proof.
     
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    You've used that link before. Guess what - there still isn't any valid evidence of God.

    I agree completely with that definition.

    I also want to point out that based on the (correct) definition of "agnostic" above, everyone is agnostic - theist and atheist alike. It is 100% inarguable fact that the existence of a deity is currently unknown, and is most likely unknowable (read: knowledge, not belief).

    You reference "agnostic atheists" as some sort of special version of atheist, but it's not - it's just redundant.

    You don't. While, yes, you did just paste the correct definition, this is not the definition you use while vomiting your constant dishonest vitriol against atheists.
     
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    My initial post was billions genius... go back and read it...
     
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    3.4 tolerance +/- 5
     
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    Your sloppiness is not a virtue.
     
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