Why do people take the Jews so seriously?

Blah, blah, blah. You leftists will believe anything a "Palestinian" says. Never mind the FACT that "Palestinians" are nothing more than displaced Jordanian Arabs who failed to overrun Israel. They have no more of a claim to Jerusalem than Mexicans have to El Paso, Texas.

 

4horseman was simply spouting propaganda. Still, the idea of Jews being money manipulators is not farfetched. As an American Jew, I can honestly say many conflicts have been financed by Jewish bankers. For example, the Rothschild family, a group of German Jewish bankers helped finance the Hessian mercenaries that fought alongside the British during the Revolutionary War. On the other side, Portuguese Jewish financial broker Haym Solomon helped finance the Continental Army. Jewish banker Jacob Schiff helped finance Japanese war bonds during the Russo-Japanese, and did so partially to seek revenge against the Czar for pograms against Russian Jews. It is even believed that members of the Rothschild Family may have even helped finance the Confederacy, as they had quite a few people who sympathized with them, although there is still a tremendous lack of proof of such.

 

Power.....

 

Israel is a sovereign nation and nothing you say will change that. The "Palestinians" lost the war, and to the victor go the spoils. Stop living in the past.

 

If "the Jews" are "money manipulators", it's because they were FORCED into the money-changing and lending businesses by oppressive governments. More importantly, there is nothing wrong with banking or money-changing. It is a service just like any other job and the only reason some people view it as immoral or unsavory is because of the Bible.

 

I respect Jews because they stick together, unlike goyms like you and others, who moan and complain about injustices and see themselves as better then the rest, yet when it comes to actual solution, they run and hide.

 

I don't disagree. I actually find the process in which international bankers such as the Rothschilds, Jacob Schiff, and others influenced government policy quite interesting. Without Rothschild financing, Britain would not have as much man power during the Revolutionary War. On the other hand, without Haym Solomon, the Continental Army would have not have been as efficient. The way our country formed could have been completely different.

 

You shouldn't even dignify the OP with a response because in so doing, you reveal your own bigotry. There is no accurate generalization you can make about "the Jews", so your answer of "power" is, like the rest of the bigoted generalizations in this thread, false and irrational. Stop buying into the ridiculous and moronic leftist anti-semitism. There is no secret cabal of Jews running the world and pulling the strings.

 

Hey, genius, many of us "goyim" are staunch defenders of Jewish people. Maybe you should stop making dumb generalizations like the other bigots in this thread.

 

Indeed, but you must realize that individuals who attempt to paint Jews as "money manipulators" are not doing so out of admiration. They are just regurgitating ancient Biblical propaganda that was meant to ingratiate Christians to the Roman Empire.

 

Me being one of them, (although often called an anti semite by goyms)

 

Being one of whom? The Jews?

 

I understand. Too often on this forum I see hasty generalizations about the "elite Jewish bankers" that control a secret cabal working against the interests of nations. That is absolutely not true. Nations come to those elite Jewish bankers, not the other way around. They provide a service to them.

 

It is unsavoury to many people, which is all that matters in a discussion of why Jews are so disliked.

It seems to me that the Jews managed to create, in a variety of ways, some unsavoury - an identity that made them disliked wherever they settled. Their customs and beliefs were highly distinctive in the Christian and Muslim worlds they tried to inhabit and this, along with their reputation for manipulating non-Jews - probably not undeserved, made them natural targets for political and religious attention.

It is an identity they have never been able to shake and probably never will. The creation of a Jewish state so dedicated to persecuting Palestinians will forever cement their place in history as one of the more objectionable peoples to have inhabited the planet. And all Jews will suffer by association.

 

Quite true. What most people fail to realize is that the anti-Jewish sentiment expressed in the New Testament wasn't even transcribed during Jesus' lifetime; what's more, it's primary purpose was to ingratiate the new religious sect to the Roman government and to differentiate themselves from the old Jewish sect; when people use that as an excuse for maligning Jews, they are just regurgitating ancient political propaganda. It's absolutely idiotic.

 

I could be the Jew and an ANTI Jew just as equaly - to think other wise is pure ignorance. while I hate the manipulations, I depsise the ignorance of goyms just as much. I tried hard, put money where my mouth is, my soul, to wake up the goym, but they are not only helpless like chickens, they are also HYPOCRITES pretending to be what they are not. if you are different become a pvsi.net candidate, nothing else cuts it.

 

Jews are also quite intelligent. For being such prolific bankers and financiers, it is obvious. We have made many contributions to the fields of economics, from anarcho-capitalism (Murray Rothbard) all the way to Keynesianism/Monetarism (Paul Krugman, Ben Bernanke, Milton Friedman). Consequently, we have had tremendous influence over public policy. All of these reasons are why we are scapegoated so often.

 

It's unsavory to them because they are dumb enough to take ancient political propaganda as the word of God. Talk about delusional...

Jews were marginalized because of the need of early Christians to ingratiate themselves to the Roman government and nothing more. That political propaganda is the reason why future generations of Christians felt justified in persecuting Jews.

 

I have no idea what you're talking about. You sound like a mental patient.

 

Thank you - I feel comfortable with that description in this world.

 

Some Jews have been intelligent. Some have influenced public policy. But so have many more non-Jews.

The question is why do Jews stand out for being Jews and non-Jews do not stand out for being Catholics, atheists, or Mormons.

 

Like thediplomat said, there is considerable evidence that Jewish bankers have had many interesting effects on history. Jews (Zionist in particular) do have a significant impact on US politics and foreign policy. Whether you think it's positive or negative is subjective I suppose, but to deny this fact is crazy. I suspect you are Jewish yourself judging from your very emotional response and quickness to label me a bigot?

 

Well, some of the reasons go back to Biblical propaganda, as Ethereal stated. Others have developed over time. Those that have developed over time are the conspiracy theories, and have made their way into the mainstream.

 

Your question is moronic. Nobody celebrates Albert Einstein or Richard Feynman simply because they were Jewish, and nobody denies JFK his legacy simply because he was a Catholic. You are just fabricating controversy where none exists in an attempt to justify your bigoted generalizations.

 

It is the reasons the OP is looking for.