Why do pro EU people find the UK's independence so offensive?

Well yeah I am "integration-for-the-sake-of-integration". What else should I be? 'Integration-for-the-sake-of-ice-cream'?

You're thinking I'm being simplistic. I'm not simplistic. If you think so go ahead I wanna hear your argument.

Otherwise I'd say chill out till late2013 - 2014 when the Commission puts forward the future treaty (on its website, YouTube etc)...

You are repeating what the bunch of euroskeptics here has already said and what the Commission itself has proven to be aware of months ago... That it needs to remake the design of its institutions etc. The one now is a basic design. One poorly adjusted to anything.

You grew more conservative because you got the virus of the bunch from around this forum?

 

If you are something for the sake of something, then you are indeed being very very simplistic. Nothing should be done for the sake of it, things should always have a reason, and a bllody good one when it affects the lives of 450 million people!

 

Utter tosh. It's not Vlad's fault if janpor and you have a hard time to understand the meaning of a well built sentence. I have no trouble understanding what he means even though we happen to be separated by a double language barrier. So think harder before you try to point out his intellectual flaws. And btw the simplest explanation is often the best.

 

OK, examples:

Vlads rationale:
Why do you go to work?
I go to work because I go to work.

Why did you punch that guy?
I punched that guy because I punched that guy.

Why did you eat that food?
I ate that food because I ate that food.

A normal rationale:
Why do you go to work?
I go to work because I need money to live.

Why did you punch that guy?
I punched that guy because he insult my missus.

Why did you eat that food?
I ate that food because I need food to live and I enjoy the taste of spagetti.

I don't think that I can explain further.

 

To be integrated means to be in harmony with the environment. So it makes perfect sense to be in favor of integration for the sake of integration.

And note that it was janpor who wrote that phrase because he and you couldn't understand what Vlad meant in the first place.

 

Like you had a life in the UK... Everything is stiff, rigid, super old there. If it's not what are you doing in the mainland??

 

Leffes rationale:
Why do you enjoy sex?
I enjoy sex because I enjoy having children.

 

What on earth has this got to do with doing things for the sake of doing them?

I didn't come to the NL, just for the sake of it - I had reasons.

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EXACTLY!!! You have a reaon, you do not do it just "because", there are always reasons.

 

You come to NL for a reason... Hundreds of children left behind cause they are hardly affordable.