Why do righties expect Obama to produce documentation no other Prez has?

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  1. SFJEFF

    SFJEFF New Member

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    I would like to see any proof- not more.

    All you have shown me is that the mistake was not caught until later.

    Meanwhile in 1990, 1993, 1995 and since then every actual publication showed Obama as being born in Hawaii.
     
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    New York Times 1990- Obama born in Hawaii
    Chicago Tribune 1990-Obama born in Hawaii
    Washington Post 1990- Obama born in Hawaii
    chicago Daily Herald 1900- Obama born in Hawaii
    Columbia College Today 1990 " Born in Hawaii"

    Obscure two paragraph blurb in a pamphlet with 80 peoples bio's 1991- Obama born in Kenya
    Chicago Magazine 1993- Obama born in Hawaii
    Los Angeles Times, 1995- Obama born in Hawaii
    "Dreams of My Father" 1995- Obama born in Hawai
    Chicago Daily Herald 2003- Obama born in Hawaii
    Time Magazine, 2004- Obama born in Hawaii
    Salon.com, essay by author Scott Turlow, 2004- Obama born in Hawaii
    Columbia College Today 2005- Obama born in Hawaii

    Hmmm what would Occam's razor say about that?
     
  3. Dan40

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    I'm not part of this birther issue. But Occam's Razor would say,,,,,,,,,"WHERE ARE THE LINKS TO ALL THESE CLAIMS?"
     
  4. expatriate

    expatriate Banned

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    treasonous would be more on point.
     
  5. SFJEFF

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    OK, I read the 2 links provided.

    Neither has any kind of official status. They are both essentially blogs.

    No different than someone else using thios thread as proof one way or the other. MEANINGLESS.

    The second one listed was written AFTER b.o became president and clearly states that its purpose is to debunk birthers. Again it has no credentials at all. It is opinion, just as the birthers have an opinion.

    You list NY Times and more. Where and when were these published in the NYT and were they news articles or editorials? Same question for all the PUBLICATIONS listed.
     
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    ROFLMFAO!!!!!

    classic. absolutely classic.
     
  8. SFJEFF

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    Do I have to do your reading for you also? I gave the links that took you right to the source I relied upon.

    But heck- I don't mind- here you go

    http://i1226.photobucket.com/albums/ee410/Whatever4PJ/TFB/ObamaFall1990a.jpg
    "Born in Hawaii"
    http://www.nytimes.com/1990/02/06/u...o-head-harvard-s-law-review.html?pagewanted=1
    "Mr. Obama was born in Hawaii."

    http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/2012/06/colb-happy-4th/

    This has actual scans of the newspaper articles- but you can thank WND for some of the scans
    http://www.wnd.com/2010/11/230829/

    Here WND has a scanned copy of the Chicago Daily Herald from 5/3/90 "He was born in Hawaii"

    http://demookie.com/Barack-Obama-Was-Born-in-Hawaii.pdf- here are better copies of the scans of these documents.

    Now that I got you started, I am sure you can find the rest on your own.

    You are welcome!
     
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    Slyhunter New Member Past Donor

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    No you don't because we haven't seen the college records to see whether or not Obama lied during that time period about being born in Kenya. No proof at all that he didn't do it.
     
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    That makes more sense.
     
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    Slyhunter New Member Past Donor

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    It doesn't prove that Obama didn't tell Harvard he was from Kenya, or that publisher either.
     
  12. SFJEFF

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    Birthers lol.....

    first you make up the story that the author got the information from Obama college records- then you claim we don't have proof what you made up didn't happen.....

    Birthers lol.
     
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    Of course not- this just shows that Obama told virtually everyone who ever interviewed him that he was born in Hawaii and that Obama consistantly told everyone who interviewed him that he was born in Hawaii.

    The only anomaly is one obscure paragraph in the middle of an obscure pamphlet that says Obama was born in Kenya- and the author of that says that statement was her mistake, and that Obama never told her that.

    Hmmm which do you believe? Oh right- the story you made up.
     
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    Of course, the pamphlet issue is only "important" to Birthers because it confirms their preexisting belief.

    Unlike his birth certificates, the multiple statements of Hawaiian officials, etc.

    It's a mental illness, confirmation bias.
     
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    Oh lets be fair Bull- some have realized claiming Obama wasn't born in Hawaii just makes them look crazy, so they have transformed from 'Birthers' to Post- Birthers- and have made up the idea that Obama was intentionally trying to mislead people by claiming in an obscure promotional brochure intended for a few thousand people that he was born in Kenya, while meanwhile telling millions of newspaper readers in every major market in the United States that he was born in Hawaii.

    "Post- Birthers"- just as crazy as Birthers but now with more zing!
     
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    college records have exactly nothing to do with the pamphlet. we know she didn't get it from obama, because she said she didn't, and there is zero evidence to the contrary.

    lol, that's not how it works. there's no proof you didn't sodomized a 7 year old boy.
    see what I did there?
     
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    I didn't BOTHER with the rest after opening this one.

    http://i1226.photobucket.com/albums/...aFall1990a.jpg

    Did YOU read it? Again it has no official standing. Your link is to a story writtn AFTER b.o. became president. There is nothing from 1990. This is an article written, IN FAVOR, of b.o. after 2008.

    IT PROVES NOTHING.

    Again, I'm not a birther. But if you are going to use blogs and material JUST writt6en to prove claims from 20 years ago, the the birthers have just as much validity as you do.

    Where is your concrete, verifiable proof? No blogs, no opinion pieces, OFFICIAL PROOF?

    So far I score it birthers 0, you 0. Neither side have presented anything but opinions by slanted parties.
     
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    So release the college records and we can put all the unsubstantiated allegations behind us.
    Problem solved.
     
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    I have no dog in this fight. I do not see how college records would prove anything now. I am 100% certain that no college record released NOW would say anything but born in HI.

    My complaint is that NEITHER side posts anything but opinion pieces.
     
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    this is what birthers said about the birth certificate. and we seen how well that "problem was solved".

    lol, birthers.......moving those goalposts 10 feet at a time.
     
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    The heart of the matter. I am a lot "less significant" than dunce boy, however, when confronted with the requirements of the job description for the imbecilic jobs that I have had, I supplied birth certificates, social security numbers and college transcripts upon request. Why didn't dunce-boy at the time? Is he "special" (i.e. a retarded Kenyan and eligible for "special consideration")? Why do insignificant jobs require transcripts and USA citizenship BUT THE MOST INFLUENTIAL JOB IN THE USA DOESN'T? Again, the damage is done. Just vote out dunce-boy. I don't want to see how stupid he is now. It really reflects you, AMERICA. YOU (not me) voted for dunce boy. YOU want to be living in chaos and shooting at me. There are repercussions to this idiocy.
     
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    Obama is not an open book. Other Presidents have opened their acedemic documents, Bush included. Do you not remember the jokes about Bushes grades? Obama is hiding something. And if I had to guess, he is hiding the way he got funding in that Ivy League University. Probably got a foreign student grant. But that is all conjecture, and until he comes forth and discloses his records, we may never know for sure. So much for Open and transparent.
    He is one big contradiction. He ran on slamming McCain for what he described as McCain's negative ads. But Obama has ran over 2000 political ads to date, and 94% are negative. He really has no choice, his record of achievements is dreadful. The worst recovery in the history of America.
     
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    Right back atcha.

    Where is the 'proof' that the pamphlet exists? Oh yeah- on Breitbarts blog.

    Look- I led you to the water- I cannot make you drink it. In the links I provided, there are links to the actual sources, and there are links that show scanned copies of the actual period articles.

    If you don't want to look at them- I really don't care.

    But I have provided as much proof of these articles as anyone has provided regarding the pamphlet.
     
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    That's good. Otherwise obama might eat it.

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    Which other Presidents? Come on- name them.

    How about other Presidential candidates- like Romney, or McCain?

    So what do you think Bush was hiding?

    Bush never showed us his Harvard records either. Bush never disclosed his funding either. Did you guess that Bush got a foreign student grant too? Why not?

    Yes it is all conjecture- but your conjecture is only about Obama- while Romney- who has also not released his records and McCain- who also never released his records- you didn't have any negative conjecture about at all. Wonder why?

    And that is a political opinion- what has that got to do with Obama following in the tradition of all Presidents and refusing to show his political opponents his college records?
     
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