Why has NATIONALISM become so Stupid??

Well?

Explain yourselves ,as you are the dominant Ideologues???

"in the NATIONAL Intrest" just means intrest to the banks!

do you think us Gloalists[ formerly known as "Internationalists"]haven't noticed the fragility of ALL your rationalisations?

WELL?

Where can i find a STAND ALONE SINGLE ECONOMY NATION//???Outside of GLOBALISED ECONOMY NAME JUST1 please NATIONALIST THINKERS!
?????????WELL?

 

Many people fear powerful individuals who use internationalism to their benefit harming one nation for the sake of the other as has been the case throughout history. They may feel that a better alternative is nationalism because it gives them a collective identity based on culture and language however once again we witness the powerful exploiting others for their own gain nationalists either do not see this or believe it is acceptable. Besides a sense of nationalism is entrenched in many countries from an early age skewing history to its own advantage. Powerful organizations at any large level are often corrupt and ineffective hence why i believe governance should be local as well as security at an even more local level.  

 

Oh yes the old Communist TROTSKIST call of "ARM THE WORKERS "good politics for the Working Class about now and very relevant in GREECE for instance!

 

I have noticed because domestically I have some tendencies of nationalism, but as a Clinton Democrat, I'm also a globalist, and I favor a global perspective more than nationalistic perspective. I'm also a fervent advocate of the United Nations.

 

Globalism is doing wonders for the American economy.

True story...

 

Your funny!

See Politics is both Art and science!

1 aspect of its universal facets ,is Political Satire,the Comrades have suggested lately I relax a bit get in touch with my Artistic side ,less Ideology more laughter they said,and agreed so must comply!

 

The only reason why it does not do wonders for the economy is that we don't understand the trends of the entire international economic system. Each important set of nations must follow one another by utilizing economic policy that builds a competitive balance but as much success as possible for each nation.

 

Thanks for answering the question ,so because that all takes time and is OhhhOOHH soo cumBersome!

Social and Economic Reality is so far in frount of them they can only lash out like little children thug bullies!OK!

See you confirm the necessity for Socialism Yesterday and agree with Leon Trotsky!

Or

WHY HAVE CAPITIALISM WHEN HUMANITY HAS THE INTERNET!?

 

United States political rhetoric is annoying, I know. Sometimes I wish we had the attitude of the United Nations and the willigness to take action of the most active NGO.

 

This is the kind of innovative, non-partisan policy that you need. This is a policy that no political party in the US has considered:

One of my proposals pertaining to the issue of financial deregulation, taxes, and debt and deficit reduction:

Derivatives are basically financial bets on a factor within the economic system. What astounds me is the amount of capital created through the derivatives business. Over it's near 20 year history as a business, derivatives have produced over 600 trillion dollars. In 2008 alone, the derivatives business gained near 200 trillion dollars. According to CNN, the average annual growth rate for the derivatives industry is around 40 percent. This is an area of the financial sector that must be regulated through our tax system.

The top 1 percent of our population, or those who earn 1.1 million dollars or more, are usually the people that benefit from this business. Derivatives are a portion of a CEO's income that are not included in the portion of their income that is taxable.

As a result, what I propose is that in order to generate the needed federal revenue to resolve the debt and deficit crisis, we should place a a tax on 10 percent of the annual derivatives income of the top 1 percent of our population. This tax would require a renewed focus of the CFTC and SEC on regulation of derivatives, as well as coordination with the IRS. The revenue gained from this tax would be on par with or greater than the possible tax hikes being discussed by Democrats.

 

it used to be annoying now it is downright embarassing!

 

What exactly are you referring to when speaking of nationalism?

You know, one world, one love, and all of those kum bay ya chants sound great, but you have to look at the reality of what is happening.

For Americans, our jobs and our corporations are leaving for cheaper labor and lower regulations. Our failure to protect our southern border has lead to millions of undocumented workers, while unemployment soars. "Americans won't do that kind of work"...maybe they should.

In Europe, you have groups who are not assimilating to the culture there, or outright threatening the citizens of those nations. They are also filling up the public Doles in collapsing nations.

Globalism, as far as wanting open borders and as applied to economics, is benefiting 3rd world nations, China, India, international bankers, and the filthy rich owners of these outsourcing corporations. At the same time, it is destroying the middle class of the western world.

 

The country is in the state it is because of poor management of global trade if the US had better policies to protect the working class and to create fair trade with foreign countries it would be in better shape.

 

I agree with this. Too bad the corporations own our government and write the laws. I'm not sure what the OP is thinking of when mentioning "nationalism" and "globalism."

 

Nationalism always has been stupid. Nationalism is a way to control the people, and mantain them distracted, the same with patriotism. Are exactly the same crap.

 

Good to see the question of Demands on Government has started!

the chances of you doing that in a lifetime 0%

Easier to btake the lot abolish their Government and set up our own for US!

US being the Workers who actually create ,the wealth that keeps EVERYTHING going day in day out we toil for less and less!

 

Its not crap its "Old rehashed crap"all the old wornout exposed and disposed of arguments that don't add up !?

 

Working towards improvement of just the country or working towards the benefit of whole world i would assume is the unspecific version of it.

 

America runs the world.

Hope that clears it up for you.

And if it doesn't...

You have twice the land and half the populations, and half your population lives in the outlying suburbs, three months from contact.

Sure you have more nukes but we got the balls to push the button- you don't. We will nuke you 1,000 times over before we lose a few cities.

But I digress...

Perhaps you;re in the wrong forum.

 

'Workers of the World Start Arming'? Are you telling conservatives to buy guns??

 

I think it's like a Hatfields & McCoys kind of thing.

Nationalism is an equation of the family unit with some sort of (possibly arbitrary) political boundary. It extends our willingness to work and sacrifice for our family to hundred of millions (or so) of people that we'll probably never meet.

For some people, that means that everyone outside that (still quite possibly arbitrary) political boundary is automatically an enemy, or at least dehumanized to the point that they become acceptable as collateral damage, for example. It reduces everyone outside your nation to the status of animals, morally, in that your feelings about an "outsider" are sort of like a hunter's feelings about prey: you may not want to kill the animal, but if it puts food on the table you'll do it and feel good about it.

For other people, nationalism is a matter of pride. You get to feel good about yourself because you imagine your nation as a good and wonderful thing that has accomplished important, meaningful things that really impressed a lot of people, and you perceive yourself as a part of that.

I think both of those kinds of nationalism are kind of stupid. The second one isn't so bad, but it's still falling sucker to a political illusion.

There may be another kind of nationalism -- and maybe there's another word for this that I just don't know? -- where you think of your country as your immediate family. And you think of other countries as your cousins and extended family. 'Cause there are no countries that aren't made up at least partly of human beings, and genetically, on a sufficiently broad scope of history, there are no human beings that you aren't related to, so it has the advantage of being the truth, which is always a nice thing in a perspective. It doesn't mean that your strongest relationship isn't still with, in all probability, your own country. But you don't have to act like all the other countries aren't human, and important to you, in some way.

 

no you have it just about right in the first 2 examples ,primative thinking that runs opposite to the march of historical processes which are Intergrating and connecting humanity Globally irrespective of national soil!

and that is stupid to say history dosen't matter because i am this or that nationality!

see they think Globalised economy is just a word and not real like the Nation !

That i get told I am a part of by whom?

Thats right the Same nutty government we humans think is Insane!

 

Oh another day and the Nationalists ,thats idiots that think Nations still exist economically ,another blow Belarus that new capitialist Democracy,joke,has gone under thus shaking that other Democratic nation ,joke,Russia yes Russia is threatened now wasn't it Lenin that described the Nation of Russia as "the weakest link in the chain of Impearialism'just saying!!

have any of you Nationalist fools got a National economy worth crowing about ,come on somewhere how about the new nation of South Sudan,sorry the divided Nation of Sudan ???

surely its the new model were the population votes again st national unity !

great the single state of california should go it alone ,oh sorry its insolvent,come to think of it is any of the Disunified states of America [formerly known as the USA]actually solvent or are they all reflecting the general economic decay and demise of US Impearialism [formerly the greatest Nation on E$arth]

 

Just like Marxism/socialism/communism? lol it must suck to be so detached from reality.

Talk about the pot calling the kettle black.

 

Hasn't Nationalism always been stupid?.