Why has NATIONALISM become so Stupid??

gee this is a hard position to deal with ,Marxism's conection with Social Reality ,TODAY and next week,um ?

Got me there,oh thats right lets see the collapsing nation State system of Capitialism was such a long long long time ago!

Belarus,Greece,Italy,USA,Ireland ,Portugal,Japan,Spain sorry just mentioning Capitialist Nations teetering on systemic economic breakdown!

Now lets list Revolutions against Capitialist Regimes,Tunisia,Egypt,Libya,Syria,Greece,Yemen lets just throw in all the entire"Arab World"[Including Palestine [formerly known as Israel]!

Wars that are bringing down Impearialist powers because they Bankrupt the treasury,Iraq ,Afghanistan,Libya!

Nations that are expanding and taking over Global market share,CHINA!

No problems for Capitialism I was confused obviously a system of stability with hundreds of years of unchallenged wealth and prosperity for all!

gee what was marx thinking !

Thanks for your extremely cutting analysis as i must put up my Communist boots and say 'No chance for the World Socialist Revolution happening at least not by the end of the week.'

Ronnie Reagan is GOD! nothing to see here move away no chance for Socialism ,Capitialism is just fine in fact its in a Recovery not a Global depression,see this paragraph is delusional nationalist thinking!

What a funny person you are right on top of current Capitialist events!NOT

BTW RUPERT MURDOCH AND ALL BILLIONAIRES ARE MORALLY AND SOCIALLY CRIMINALS!

 

No not always it made sense in the 17th -20th century's.then stupidity resided in the royal Courts of Europe where funny deluded people called Kings and Princes and Monarchs and Tsars and Emporers,ran around thinking they were 'Gods representatives on earth" and their economic and Social System would last fro ever!

Then ,to be a Nationalist like the Great Revolutionaries in France and the American Colonies was smart!

 

Ok first of all, china can longer be considered a communist state.

Captialism in the Greece and the others is not going to collapse, it's all about governments defaulting, no capitalist systems collapsing. Wow, I feel sorry for you if I had to point this out to you.

And the "revolutions" going across arab countries isn't against ciatalism at all, they're against abusive governments.

Holy (*)(*)(*)(*), you were wrong about 100% in your post. How embarrassing, congrats.

 

Oh what compliment to be called Wrong by a nationalist !

Students of politics note the delusional quality of the Polemic,our professor has caught up with the rest of us in understanding that China was Communist as it was and still is Controled by a STALINIST CLIQUE a murderous ,near Capitialist Fascistic Clique but a Political clique known as the CHINESE COMMUNIST PARTY[Moaist variant of Stalism] '!

China could well afford jumping over a return of a Kerensky or Yeltsin Capitialist restoration and carry out a POLITICAL REVOLUTION on the road to Global socialism!

Oh then we have the greek Government completely devoided from its economic base ,namely the NATIONAL ECONOMY see last time I looked a Bankrupt state is a BY _PRODUCT OF A BANKRUPT ECONOMY ,not the other way around!

The IMF agrees with ME!

And to top it off we get the Unscientific deviod of histrorical classification ,"abusive governments"from Rupert Murdochs position 1 could argue that the British parliament is being abusive!

might see thye resignation of the PRIME MINISTER soon!

 

When was nationalism not stupid?

 

1440's to August 4th,1914 and the begining of the First[ war to end all wars] World War!

 

And then the expression of fascism in Europe again!

in the form of mass slaughter of Children in Norway!

Nationalism not just stupid ,RABID Murderous Scum as well !

 

We understand that third world labor is being used to undercut American labor. It's not like it's a mystery. But, oddly enough, the media and gov't seem unconcerned.....


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And, what about gov't spending?



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Nations protect the people from other nations. That is until the progressives came along.

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They are very concerned ,about the collapse of the nation state system and its replacement by globalised Trade,Production ,Communications,Finance and transport !

Its called 'Economy of Scale ,and the economic pre-requisite for socialism.

As the Global Working Class is near full intergration,all except Political in fact!

good luck ,with the Ideas that arise from the Bankrupt ,crisis ridden and dying Capitialist Nation state system!

A "New World Order "is about to arise that being the unification of humanity against NATIONALISM ,because it dosen't make sense anymore!

As Judge Judy says," if it dosen't make sense its a LIE"!

 

Nationalism has always been stupid. How can you be proud of a piece of rock? It's one thing to be proud of what your people have achieved, but i think it's pointless being proud of a country as you can't help where you were born.

 

Luckily we are born to Planet earth not a Nation or a Country which are mere constructs of the huiman mind.That being the 17th,18th and 19th century human mind before the development of Global economy !

We live in the time of Global thinking not National Good hey ,any stupid Nationalists who think their outmoded backward unsupportable ideas have a basis in Global economy ,communications I say stop flogging a dead horse !

 

What is this thing you call American Labour ??????

Excuse me but the labour market[like every other market ]is Global ,its not "American Labour " its the Global Labour market in what some call [incorrectly]America!

anyone that trys to understand anything from the extremely limited veiw of "National intrest"has either been asleep for a hundred years or denies reality as it IS ,that reality being a Globally Intergrated Economy ,that includes ALL MARKETS including Labour ,Cars,pencils ect ect!

nothing exists and that includes you in a National framework!

 

I'll take Nationalism over Communism or Socialism any day .

 

You will take irrespective of what you may or maynot think ,whatever is to be fought and thought out on the scale of Global economy and Global politics .

you may think anything you like History will determine outcomes!

History didn't finish in the 90's with the collapse of the USSR,the only thing that collapsed was a NATIONALIST Stalinist Regime and the National economy on which it rested !

Communism is yet to be ,Socialist Revolutions are starting in the Advanced centres of Outmoded capitalism ,go to Wall Street protests for the "American Version"talk to the founding Fathers and Mothers of the Revolution that is unfolding. if you doubt ?

which way will the US Government go?fall over and implode like Egypt or mass slaughter like Syria,or civil war like libya they are the only options outside SOCIALISM GLOBALLY !


Governments around the world have no answers then Fascism,or what is now called austerity and War

 

I'm not quite sure I understand your question. Are you arguing against protectionist economies?

 

I am pointing out the reality of Economic life in the 21st century,that being the COMPLETE [past tense]intergration of all economic activity from NATIONAL FORMS to GLOBAL!

to try and think with the old dead concepts of "National Economy "or "National Intrests'has become so inane and absurd as the thinking of Barak Obama or any Nationalist thinking human for that matter!

Nationalism as thinking has no relevance other then those that have vested intrests in seeing rupert murdoch and co keeping their wealth against the intrests of the other 6.9 billion humans on the Planet!

History has outstriped capitialism and they have created the seeds of their own destruction with the development of Globalisation of Everything ,Pandoras box was opened many crisis ago!

 

Protectionism or not isn't the point as their is nothing to protect anymore we exist in GLOBAL ECONOMY that pathetic 19th Century National Economy died in the 80's and 90's!

any reference to NATIONS existing is purely Geographic not economic !

It is not what I say it is what is!

Everything that surrounds you in your life is now maintained developed produced from the standpoint of GLOBAL ECONOMY not nonexistant National!

 

The US Elections Dumber and Dumber ,stupid dosen't quite cover it ,Insane,delusional,old hat,obsolete,pitiful,as well as stupid ,oh DANGEROUS of Course.

I would describe Nationalism as something akin to Dementia!

 

Nationalism seems to be working working wonders for China.

 

Oh yes we do note that the humble sweeper of streets picked up the 2 year old that got run over twice and had 20 Money loving middle class capitialist types ignore her,!

With glaces at the dying human in front of their eyes!

well done Capitialism in China,Stalinism must be destroyed forever!

Death to the Chinese Stalinist Clique.

Down with the Counter-Revolutionary Communist -[Maoist]Party!

Freedom for the Wage slaves trapped in the Chinese Nation!

 

Your presense here sporting the hammer and sickle flag of communism tells us all we have to know about you. You're still upset over having the greatest economic capitalist boom the world has ever seen of the 25-year Reagan Capitalistic economy of 1983-2007 make America the envy of the world. To add insult to injury, it was Reagan that put a well-aimed fork into your communist belly by insuring you red commie slime never get to be the puppet nation bully on the block you once were. How's Russia's economy doing these days over in that cesspool of die hard communist infiltration? But don't worry, obama will be outed next year, and by then you'll have to rely on bashing good ole capitalism again. I see that's a great pastime for you to engage in. Good luck with your sights on a one-world order. Nothing beats capitalism, and you know it and fear it.

 

I could'nt find the flag of the 4th Trotskyist International,as far as the 'former greatest Nation"[I dont say USA anymore as it dosen't exist its in the failed Nation state category] on the planet is concerned who envies IT????????

We Marxists or Globalists,are based on the Greatest Economy ever created the Globally Intergrated Economy that is maintained and operated by the Globally Intergrated Working Class,they are the Humans that actually do things see WORK by WORKERS is the only source of wealth.

Mister money bags Capitialist watching their bank balances increase at everyone elses expense is not WORK and creates not 1 cent of wealth!!

 

The rest of your mantra is nothing but retarded slogans, and love how you ignore the fact that the quality of life for people has actually improved over the last thirty years.

You're pretty childish.