Why Have Conservatives Not Stopped The Liberal Revolution That Threatens Their Culture?

No its not

 

Explain the difference, please. And while you're at it, explain how those opportunities are regularly built upon by migrants with great success - which obviously wouldn't be possible if those opportunities weren't the real deal.

 

If you can't see the difference between winning a large sum of money and not winning, I can't help you.

 

That's not what I asked you.

Both provide the OPPORTUNITY to build something for yourself and your family. They're both 'free money'. The only difference is that one is paid all at once, the other over a period of time. They BOTH provide a foundation to build upon, so any failure or refusal to use them for that end, is a personal choice.

Now explain how not using either opportunity, isn't a personal choice. What forces people to either blow their lottery win, or refuse to dedicate themselves to education/living frugally/saving money etc? No outside force is doing that. It's entirely a personal choice.

 

Yes it is. People given a hand up and not moving on up on their own if they are able bodied and of relative sound mind are exactly that.

 

Except their not both free money.

 

Nope, sorry.

 

Thus we have people on welfare across the generations in some families because they got a hand up and turned it into a handout. If they won a million in a lottery they would be flat broke in less than five years

 

Are you saying that one who receives subsidized housing, free jr college, a guaranteed income, food stamps and Obamacare and didn’t use it to move up in the world didn’t waste free money as much as the lottery winner bankrupt in a few years did? Both blew it with an opportunity for change

 

Conservatives have not stopped the liberal revolution that threatens its culture.

Wonderful.
Another wide open thread title that immediately becomes a tribal playground for left/right gross generalisations and not one in this thread has defined "culture", that which is supposed to be threatened and the important part of the title.
The word "culture" refers to the entire identity of a particular place, and includes everything that occurs there. It is today's place that rests on the past and constantly changes towards the future.
It includes everyone.
Now I assume that the thread title refers to the culture the author sees today and which is based on what s/he understands is its history which has made today's culture...two different things BTW. 19th century US culture can't be changed. It can be reinterpreted but it was what it was. It may INFLUENCE today but they are not the same.

So from the thread title I get this:
That there is some "culture" at some particular time that liberals have threatened and which conservatives should have stopped.
Now what was that?
and when was the golden era that spoke for your culture and which should have been preserved in aspic?

There have been many cultures in the USA, from the earliest religious one in the 17th century, followed by the spirit of independence (quite a liberal thought in those days) in the 18th century, through the entrepreneurial one where law became necessary to prevent gross monopolies and where stability was essential but disregarding slave labour in the19th century,
The 20th century was about materialism as power post WW2, profit, the spread of American culture in the form of capitalist and consumer growth.

I have been led to believe that the USA is the land of original thought, inspired development, risk taking, individual effort and new adventures into the future.
These are all liberal elements. They are what keeps any country alive and moving forward where conservatives are far less willing to put the next foot forward, as exemplified in the thread title, written by someone IMO who is harking back to some place s/he sees as better.
Stopping liberal progress I have to assume does not really refer to the national culture. For reasons I explained above.
What s/he means is why are authoritarian relationships between parent and child, citizen and the law, citizen and the church, citizen and government, interracial markers and the support of section of the population who s/he sees as relying on others, all being eroded.

Which is in effect a silly question in a democracy. Innit?
It is because the people want it, whatever "it" is.
and because old conservatives are dying off faster than young liberals are impacting the decision making . Because no country stands still. Because the USA wants to continue to grow, develop, innovate and in actual fact...
keep these essential cultural positives that define the country and always have done. It is the one constant strong thread in US culture.
and conservatives can only celebrate it in history while liberals are creating it for the future.

 

~ The most important "cultural " trait in America is the US Constitution and liberty — not authoritarian government . " We the people " are less " of the people " than ever before. Both parties are at fault . However the Democrats have become much less liberal and far more totalitarian in their fake '' progressive " movement than conservative Republicans.

 

I didn't say authoritarian govt is the thread I discussed.
I said progress and innovation is. The very thing Conservatives try to slow down. They are well named.
I can't accept the rest of your very loose generalities. You give no examples .

 

~ Look to the Biden and Obama administrations for examples.

 

Until you turn around and vote for the guy who promises you that he'll make that debt go away...

Of course he's just blowing smoke up your ass but he gets your vote!

 

Sounds like you agree that a loan which has to be paid back with interest is not a handout.

 

So you do not believe that there is abuse of the welfare system in our nation?

You think that's just a "myth" huh?

 

It sounds like you're hearing things that were not said.

If you take out a loan and you're aware of the terms and conditions before you agree to the loan why would you complain?

 

And you are not hearing things that are said

Who's complaining? The argument was that young people are happy with all the handouts, and I pointed out that a loan is not a handout. Why is that so hard to understand?

 

Evidently someone is complaining, probably the people that Biden pandered to promising to make the debts go away

 

You complain.....about everything.

Others go to college and take a loan, and people have been doing that for a VERY long time, and they are smart enough to not take campaign rhetoric for gospel.

 

Here is another quote from Buchanan that I wanted to put in this thread.

"Americans who look upon this cultural revolution as politics-as-usual
do not understand it. It means to make an end of the country we love.
It cannot be appeased. Its relentless, reckless use of terms like
extremist, sexist, racist, homophobe, nativist, xenophobe, fascist,
and Nazi testifies to how seriously it takes the struggle and how it
views those who resist. For the true believers in the revolution the
Right is not just wrong, the Right is evil."__Patrick J. Buchanan,
The Death Of The West, page 215

Observation: The list of SINS and EVIL that the Donk Party supports
either directly or indirectly is HUGE-ENORMOUS and growing. Fact.

JAG

 

Yep, that's what I'm saying.

 

Yes, it happens, but nowhere near to the extent conservatives believe. And I always find it funny, in a sad pathetic sort of way, how conservatives worry about this but turn a blind eye to corporate welfare which causes far more damage.

 

Sigh ...

Please just consider the question asked. How is refusal to build upon these advantages, NOT a personal choice?

 

Exactly.