Muslims get put to death for being homosexuals. I do not have the ability to show any Americans killed for that breaking of law. Why do you excuse the Muslims? They are far worse at killing homosexuals.
You have the right to be wrong. No one is saying otherwise. Just don't expect everyone else to adhere to your wrong beliefs. As higher mammals, everything we base our society on more or less involve two or more consenting parties. So things like rape and murder should never be accepted.
And you believe that animals can think, rationally, and intelligently, and form ideas, and so choose to engage in homosexual behavior?
this only occurs in countries where religious law has intersected civil law. Which is what you and your ilk are demanding. I completely agree, religious law should never be used to dictate or force civil law
Except homosexuality, which you said some animals do, and therefore "consented" to it, so its normal...
Which isn’t relevant to the definition of the word natural Homosexual pairing and behavior is a natural phenomenon
Your definition argument falls flat. The fact you are trying to simplify murder or rape to a natural occurrence will never sit well with me. If being educated is accepting those as natural you can keep it, meanwhile it will disgust me.
I have posted sources where similar events happen in the animal kingdom, I have posted psychological studies showing where they are innate human characteristics That doesn’t mean we should accept them
I dare you to show me ONE example of two males of any species adopting and rearing the offspring of another of their species.
Then it’s fair to say that nature intended for that blood line to fall off the face of the earth. Cause there is no natural way for reproduction. So maybe it’s natures way of ending bad genetics.
Going to the doctor isn't natural. Isn't there a whole movement claiming that we should rely on our immune system rather than the COVID vaccine? Also, you completely missed the point.
Ask in a poll how many here masturbate. And your link did not show a Elephant masturbating. It said you stick your gloved hand in it's rectum to get it to ejaculate.
Just because an ape, or some other animal, seems to participate in an act it cannot possibly comprehend in the context of this conversation, does something, does not make it natural or normal, on any level - unless your argument is that on this one topic, apes or other animals can think rationally and chose an act to participate in, from a standpoint of reason and intellect.
That is beyond moronic - there is no way penguins have any clue what they are doing. Their instinct MAY BE to protect a young penguin but how you make the leap in logic that the two penguins are homosexuals is so far beyond astounding that it defies comprehension.
Which, again, has nothing to do with the word natural. Normal simply means the standard or typical metric — it is accurate to say homosexuality isn’t normal but it is natural while religion is not natural but it is normal What does any of this have to do with same-sex marriage?
To prove what, exactly? I'm obviously not going to post a video of an animal cranking one out, but my point is just because a particular body part wasn't designed for sexual pleasure, doesn't mean it's wrong to use it.
They exclusively mate with one another, do not mate with members of the opposite sex, and behave as a pair bond. It is ironic the number of times you have demanded information that you were ignorant of, and then refused that information due to some new condition that you have placed within it. By the metric that you just ascribed above, no animals are aware of what they are doing so every point you are trying to make regarding animal behavior is irrelevant.
We do not need to confine it to marriage nor to religion. The act of homosexuality simply is not natural. And a tiny number of homosexuals does not prove it is natural.
THEY MIGHT BE genetically defective Penguins - have your scientists endeavored to examine their minds to find out? Do you want to use a single example of penguins doing something irrational to justify your argument?
Yes? That's the point I was making. Since homosexuality harms no one, what consenting adults do in their own bedroom is none of your concern.