Why I don't like gays & why theyre ways should not become acceptable

Im sure he did.

 

They are the same principle - the avoidance of human suffering. The key is the phrase 'reasonable expectation'. Where such expectation does not exist, or is not reasonable, the principle does not apply. It is the same principle as allowing, or assisting, a terminal patient in extreme pain, the merciful release of death. Except an aborted zygote has not developed sentience and is thus not allowed to suffer at all.

But we have digressed unconscionably, we are supposed to be discussing our immature friend's attitudes to gentlemen who like gentlemen - are we not?

 

I was referring to your other principle with no such key phrase. The one where you claim it is in the best interest of the child to be aborted, if it is "unwanted".

 

You may keep repeating that assertion, but it is still the same principle.

 

No, one uses abortion to prevent a life of "physical and emotional suffering", the other to prevent a life of a child who is "unwanted". BIG difference.

 

I respectfully disagree. There is always the potential for physical and emotional suffering (particularly the latter) with an unwanted child. And bear in mind, I am speaking of a child who grows up unwanted, not simply one unwanted at the point of conception, or what are called 'mistakes'.

 

No, you are speaking of a fetus in the first trimester when abortion is legal. I suspect a substantial number of pregnancies are unwanted in the first trimester, and the child ends up being loved and cherished by their parents after they are born. Story goes in the family that I was unwanted when my mother became pregnant with me, 3 months after my older brother was born.

 

Were you born to a life of potential emotional and physical suffering? Did your parents make it clear that you were an unwanted burden? Did they never provide for you, or make you feel wanted? Did you grow up in an orphanage, or on the streets being hungry, cold, and exploited by every unscrupulous adult? I suspect not, so you are continuing to misunderstand the point I was making.

I say this with due respect, but if you simply want to win an argument, then I am not going to waste your time and mine discussing this further. I am happy for you to consider yourself as having achieved some sort of victory.

 

no, just "unwanted" like in your belief that it is in the best interest of the child to be aborted, when it is unwanted

 

Wow. How did this become a thread on abortion?

 

Good point! And why is such a thread, so full of prejudice and homophobia allowed to go so far beyond the "500 posts" rule?

 

Yep. I noticed that too.

 

How would he know unless he's died and come back?