Why I don't meet the requirement of a Liberal

Because I like Truth.Truth and the American way used to go
hand-in-hand.No longer.It's more a game.Where truth is an obstacle.
Something akin to some Video game to be outsmarted and beatin'
back.I have certain requirement when it comes to Posting.
I prefer the truth.The unbridled truth.I give truth the upper hand
and the edge.Not the ommission thereof.
Therefore I apparently don't meet the standards {requirements}
of a Liberals world.Where truth can and often is the greatest impediment
for advancing an idea or polemic.Take Climate Chane or Global
Warming for one.
What say You ?

 

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Truth is an illusion. Nothing is true of false but its the perception of the individual that matters.

Tell me why a square is a square. Is it because it is the truth? Or is it because that a person sees a shape and has been told its a square so therefore he believes it to be so.

There is no truth that the square is what it seems to be. Unless you believe in it.

 

No, we can tell something's a square or not.

 

Imagine if you can going to a professional seminar and a bunch
of Al Gore supporters don't like what you are stating and start
yelling out the word :

Trolling !

 

And then they would start denying they were trolling. Maybe say one or two things before ignoring me.

 

How? Are you born with an innate knowledge that a square is a square or is it something taught. There is no truth that says it is a square. It is nothing without someone assigning a meaning to it.

 

reason ... Because once upon Yore the Earth was Flat.

 

Exactly. Reason may be a form of truth but its subjective to your total knowledge therefore there can be no truth. Only a God could know the truth of anything.

 

It was something I will be taught. But the method, will teach to get it each time.

 

You are correct in saying that Man,a rational yet flawed animal
did in fact decide what words to use in describing meanings.
Once the meaning was established does have consequence.
I find that Liberals have a rather hard time with that simple
notion.They feel an innate urge to constantly adjust and have the
definitions of words adapt to their feelings as in - Marriage -.
Maybe even Abortion.

 

Suppose that society declares that a square is a circle and not a square. What is the truth of the shape?

It is neither a square or a circle perhaps but maybe something not yet defined or maybe it is nothing.

 

I quote, Juliet.

"A rose by any other name would still smell as sweet."

 

A god, a guiding force of the natural laws of the universe, or nothing. Maybe there is only subjectivity in the universe. Maybe there is only objectivity. Unfortunately, I do not think we will ever know for sure.

 

If you apply the Socratic principle of the square to the liberal way of thinking you can extrapolate the truth. If a liberal believes in something is that the truth or is it simply a design of man that has been attached to their belief?

Is it truly something that was destined to be at the creation of the universe or is it simply an invention such as calling a square a square. If you assume that a liberal belief is not a natural truth then when it changes you should not be alarmed for it was never real to begin with.

 

Possibly. That is why they still debate philosophy to this day.

 

Knowing it or not you just stepped in yer own Liberal world
of identity crisis.The words flat or round were never in question when
astrologers and in particular Galileo went about insisting the World was flat.
Galileo merely was mistaken as to the Earth being Round NOT Flat.

 

Hmmm somebody needs to brush up on their history. Galileo believed in a heliocentric view while the common belief was of a geocentric view. This has very little to do with whether the Earth was flat or round.

 

Its not the liberal part that challenges you. Its the progressive neo-communit leftist loserism that is the problem. I am a liberal and I have nothing at all in common with these losers who pretend to be liberals and not admit what they really are, America haters.

 

Therein lies the problem.Unlike the Middle Ages and before,the world has
witnessed a dramatic shortage of both Theologians and Philosophers.
In fact,even President Bush is lax in his acknowledgement of this.
When asked who his favorite Philosopher was ... he said Jesus.
Jesus was not any Philosopher.Jesus was a Prophetic.The Son of
God.

 

Not to say there aren't good,really good liberals.
Daniel Patrick Moynihan was one.Hillary managed to snatch his
Senate seat however.

 

I agree with you. I think its time for another renaissance to happen. The world could use a new way of thinking.

 

Thats true about liberals, but not progressives. There is a differnce.

 

Quoted in Plato's Apology
" My plainness of speech makes them hate me,and what is their hatred
but a proof that I am speaking the truth ? "
... I was really too honest a man to be a politician and live."
-- Socrates { 470?-399B.C } Greek stonemason,general,Philosopher

 

I agree. A new way of thinking could shed some light on controversial issues that are exorbitantly opinionated, or unify society as a whole. There is some way of thinking that we have not discovered yet that could likely lead to innovation in a plethora of other fields.