Why I don't meet the requirement of a Liberal

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by Foolardi, Feb 18, 2012.

  1. kenrichaed

    kenrichaed Banned

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    Yea Socrates was great though a bit bewildering. I still don't understand why he chose to die over having his freedom. I love reading his arguments during his trial however, which is where you can find his principle on the square theory put into full practice.
     
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    dadoalex Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    "Truth" is a concept that has no more meaning than "red" or "tall."

    "Liberals" have their truth and "conservatives" have theirs.


    Facts on the other hand at not-partisan.

    Your assertion that only "Liberals" have a specific "truth" is non-factual.

    It is a partisan opinion unsupported by any facts and is therefore to be ignored.
     
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    I say I agree with everything only I don't understand why you are singling out the left side. are you part of the left right circus?
     
  4. NoPartyAffiliation

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    I appreciate many things Conservatives bring to the table. I've recently learned a lot of coal energy from a guy named Big Fitz, for example.
    But I also appreciate much that Liberals bring to the table and one of them is definitely the truth.
    Neither side always brings the truth. Conservatives lie, exaggerate, dodge etc... as much as Liberals if not more. So your post is pretty much complete bs.
    Let's put it to the test. Here are some issues that were championed by Liberals and fought by Conservatives during my lifetime:

    Do you deny there was negative treatment of minorities until as late as a couple decades ago?
    Do you deny that women were paid less for the same job and guess what, still are?
    Here's a fun one with Conservs: Do you deny that Rumsfeld ever lied to us about "knowing exactly where the WMD's are?"
    Do you deny that we had a horrible pollution problem in the 70's?

    I could go on but those are just a few examples in which Liberals told the indisputable truth and Conservatives claimed were wild exaggerations, lies or "nothing to worry about".

    BTW, there are just as many issues in which Liberals have lied and Conservs were right but this post doesn't make the ludicrous claim that Conservs "never" tell the truth...
     
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    I did not make myself clear then. I asserted there is no truth to liberal beliefs or conservative, arguing that you cannot define what is truth.

    A fact is a simple recounting of an event that took place. You can gather these facts and attribute them to this party or that but does that collection determine the truth of what each party stands for?

    There is nothing that says what these certain parties must believe in, no truth in it, only what we believe from a collection of facts. So when these beliefs change it is unfair to say they are not being truthful because that is not true.

    There are only more facts to add to the collection on which to base an idea on what this group prefers. And this will continually change.
     
  6. Foolardi

    Foolardi Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It cannot be just sheer cimcumstance that a huge if not overwhelming
    majority of Liberals just as soon toss truth and the American way under
    the proverbial bus at the drop of a political issue.
    It's a latter day phenomena.The reason escapes me.
    Why Truth would be slandered and scoffed at makes no sense.
    Unless ... The Devil is at play.
    Mixing half truth with lies,the Devil can both intimidate and
    impress.
     
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    I don't blame you for dodging my post. It ripped yours rather to pieces, didn't it?
     
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    my irony meter just exploded
     
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    Apparently this Conservative, while not very strong with the truth, is quite adept at dodging direct questioning concerning his claims! He's not the only one.
     
  10. Foolardi

    Foolardi Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Why did Jesus choose to die.? He had ample opportunity to
    cave and summit to Pontius Pilate but the crowds wanted no
    part of that.They insisted.
    No one gets out of life alive.

    " We hold in our hands the power to end our sorrows and he who
    is willing to die can brave any calamity."
    - Pierre Corneille
     
  11. Foolardi

    Foolardi Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Because Truth is to a Liberal like Holy Water to Dracula.
     
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    Your cowardly Cut & Running shows how weak your post is. Just so you can't make the excuse "Oh that? I didn't see that!"... :

    Neither side always brings the truth. Conservatives lie, exaggerate, dodge etc... as much as Liberals if not more. So your post is pretty much complete bs.
    Let's put it to the test. Here are some issues that were championed by Liberals and fought by Conservatives during my lifetime:

    Do you deny there was negative treatment of minorities until as late as a couple decades ago?
    Do you deny that women were paid less for the same job and guess what, still are?
    Here's a fun one with Conservs: Do you deny that Rumsfeld ever lied to us about "knowing exactly where the WMD's are?"
    Do you deny that we had a horrible pollution problem in the 70's?
     
  13. Foolardi

    Foolardi Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Well bless yer naive heart.No one should acccuse you of not trying.
    However in yer Juvenile shortsightedness you forget that
    Truth is not the same as Opinion.You are trying to establish a political
    Opinion as truth.That is what Al Gore almost got away with.That and his
    phoney baloney Peer review process.
    I believe in Clean air and water.Therefore the Clean Air & Water Act.
    It's been around for some time.Literally cleaned up Clevelands
    Cuyohaga River which was so pulluted in the 60's someone actually
    walked across it.From piles of floating debris,mostly small lumber.
    There is absolutely no similarity among Liberals and Conservatives when it
    comes to the value of Truth telling.Liberals actually wince at the hard truth.
    It's fairly obvious.Liberals also feel shameless.Therefore seldom apologizing.
     
  14. Foolardi

    Foolardi Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I nor anyone in my sphere as a kid growing up had anything whatever to do
    with Jim Crow or how the South perceived Blacks.My Mom had a Black
    cleaning Lady once a week and treated her very nicely and made sure
    she had a nice lunch and ride to the rapid transit.
    if anything it was guys like Bill Clinton's mentor James Fulbright,a
    devout Segregationsit who treated Blacks indifferent;y.
    BTW before my Mom got Marie { Black cleaning lady } we had a
    Poor White cleaning lady who's son eventually got an academic
    scholarship to attend MIT.
     
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    Another nice dodge! Conservatives seem scared shetless of the Truth! Well you do.
    Conservatives FOUGHT the Clean Air & Water Act saying it went too far. Liberals brought the TRUTH to light - and btw, I was in Detroit at the time the GOP and Conservatives were backing up th Big 3 on their absurd claim that "all these chemicals occur naturally in nature" for years.

    So the treatment of minorities? Gonna keep dodging that one? Of course! You're a COnserv and therefore cowardly run from direct answers and the truth!
    Women's pay?

    Run little Conserv Run! But don't answer directly. It's been embarrassing for you.

    (To those Conservs who are actually not so weak, my apologies for clumping you in with this "special" one. Just making my original point: Both sides bring something to the table)
     
  16. Daybreaker

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    The truth: Most of the people on these boards, including the ones that are constantly attacking liberals, are actually liberals.

    (Further truth: Most of us are also conservatives. They're not mutually exclusive like people say.)
     
  17. Foolardi

    Foolardi Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I've had my suspicions.
    There is no finer distinction than between a Liberal and a Conservative.
    Like Oil and Vinegar dressing.
    One w/o the other makes for a cruddy salad dressing.
     
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    Foolardi Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Oh gracious yes.You surely dominate the night.Kinda like Renfield.
    You are famaliar with Renfield I take it.Eating the living force right
    out of a Conservative.
     
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    Nice dodge! I mean I get it. You're owned. You either have to dance around and dodge the obvious or address directly that which proves you wrong. That would take real character. If you'd like to see what that's like, i'd be happy to show you posts in which it's displayed.
    In the meantime, Keep Cut & Running. But rather than compare you to a Stoker character, I would go with something from The Bard. You would be the fellow who laughed at the king for believing Cordelia.
    Now keep Cut & Running. It's all you have.
     
  20. Dan40

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    I say liberals will be clueless as to the meaning of this thread. But they will post links to Huffington Post, the New York Times , MoveOn and Media Matters to prove you're totally wrong.
     
  21. Foolardi

    Foolardi Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You are the requirement I was referring to.Good of you to
    make an appearance.No finer example of a Liberal Requirement
    than yer loathsome self.Making demands of Me or any
    other poster who doesn't right quick address yer immediate inquiry.
    And do it with a smile or else.And agree or else.
    Is that how you were toilet trained.
     
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    All I did was two things:
    1. Raised the point that both Conservatives AND Liberals bring positives worth consideration.
    2. Pointed out some truths that Liberals have brought some truths out that Conservatives fought.

    Your response? You sling insults, dodge the questions, run like a little girl and throw a tantrum because you have been faced with that you cannot refute. So you're weak and weak of character. You're too inconsequential to even admit when you're wrong.
    Perhaps when you have enough character to fill an eye-dropper, you will be able to simply write "Okay. There have been times when Liberals have told the truth.There have even been times when they were right and Conservative were wrong."
    But you're so indoctrinated and the stench of your fear so apparent, it won't happen.
    You may now continue whining like a weakling.
    I have many Conservative friends. You're an embarrassment to them.
     
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    no, that's not why my iron meter exploded. you know very well why it exploded.
     
  24. Foolardi

    Foolardi Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    " Truth is the torch that gleams thru the fog without dispelling it."
    - Claud-Adrian Helvetius {French philosopher,man of letters }
     
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    How do you know truth is an illusion? Weren't you just told that it is?
     

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