Why I think Christine Ford is lying

You suffer the Democrats problem. Thinking that a beer or more amounts to rape.

So far, those who claim she is credible in her testimony lack any proof at all she told the truth.

None of her "witnesses" agree with her.

 

This hearing should prove to you for all times what Democrats are like. What is the mystery about them? They lie. They lie when awake and in their dreams. Their star against Kavanaugh made claims. She was not able to supply proof. She did not know where the house is that she alleges she partied at. She did not tell anybody as she departed she had a crime committed against her. She never named any people she told at the time it took place. Her first recall per her was to a counselor a dozen years ago. I defend the Judge in this matter to be the victim of her.

 

I recommend she be charged for perjury.

 

Which party promoted the lie that Obama was not born in the US?

 

She can't be. You have to PROVE she was lying

 

Do you personally know someone who does not assume your above observation?

 

In my opinion, that should not make you sorry. But I can appreciate the fact that you are just being honest about your feelings. It's not as if you're defending them.

 

To do that Trump and/or the Republicans would have to order an FBI investigation yet they've proved to be very reluctant to have the FBI look at any of this very closely. Why do you think they don't want to find the truth?

If Kavanaugh doesn't get confirmed, it won't because of what happened to Ford or even what she imagined happened, but because of Kavanaugh's lies under oat on his drinking and sexuality.

 

It does when you disagree it's a crime:

 

...and which President perpetuated that lie?

 

There was $850,000 reasons paid to Paula Jones and then there was a certain blue dress with Bill's DNA on it after which he admitted it. Ford has no evidence what so ever other than a fuzzy 35+ year old memory in which she can't remember when, where the alleged attack took place nor how she got there or got home. I'm surprised you brought it up.

 

It originally was raised within the hillary camp back in 07 when she was running against obama. An ex democrat, trump, picked up on it, perhaps a leftover from his democratic years? ha ha

 

I had a traumatic experience in the late 60s while in the military. I can recall before, during and after on that fateful day, and it has never left my memory the fine details. They haunted me for years and I wish I could have had such a poor memory as this lady exhibited. It should have been indelible, if such a traumatic experience for her, as she makes it out to be today. So, yes, I suspect her and her story.

 

It would, but, I assume that, we do not disagree that sexual molestation is a crime. We disagree on other things, but as far as I can determine, we do not disagree about that. I could be wrong. I really don't know you, but I give that to everyone at first. So, since you brought it up, do you believe that sexual assault is a crime?

 

You are the exception that proves the rule. Traumatic memory loss is COMMON after sexual assault

 

I've been shot twice, stabbed three times and hit in the face with a baseball bat. I can remember every detail of every incident. I find those who claim to forget details about such things to be less than credible because of my personal experience.

 

Like with Bill, I doubt sexual predators limit themselves to just one act. Besides, what happened between Brett, Mark and Christine, if anything, so many years ago won't bring down Kavanaugh. If he goes down it's not because of a woman but, like with Bill, because Brett lied under oath.

 

Yes, I believe sexual assault is a crime and, more importantly, the law says it's one.

 

Me too, I was involved in a shoot out and an attempted hostage taking on separate occasions while driving an Armored Truck (money). I remember every detail, when, where and the faces and they took place in the late 80's and early 90's. I walked in on a bank robbery in 1981 and can remember every detail.

 

Agreed, but the far Right ran with it and, yes, so did Trump. Remember when he famously promised to send investigators to Hawaii?

hhttp://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2011/04/07/trump-sends-investigators-to-hawaii-to-look-into-obama/
Self-proclaimed birther Donald Trump is now so doubtful of President Obama's birthplace that he's sent a team of his own investigators to Hawaii in hopes of getting to the bottom of the issue.

That's according to Trump himself, who, in an interview with NBC, warned his investigators just might uncover "one of the greatest cons in the history of politics and beyond."

"I have people that have been studying it and they cannot believe what they're finding," Trump said an interview that aired Thursday Morning.

Asked if he has assigned people specifically to search in Hawaii, Trump said, "Absolutely."

The business mogul, who in a new NBC News/Wall Street Journal Poll is tied for second place among potential presidential candidates, also suggested the president is involved in an ongoing cover-up over the matter.

"He spent $2 million in legal fees trying on to get away from this issue, and if it weren't an issue, why wouldn't he just solve it?" he said. "I wish he would because if he doesn't, it's one of the greatest scams in the history of politics and in the history, period. You are not allowed to be a president if you're not born in this country. Right now, I have real doubts."

According to a recent CNN/Opinion Research Corporation national poll, 72 percent of Americans say that the president was definitely or probably born in the U.S., with one in four saying that he was definitely or probably born outside the country. But the survey indicates a partisan divide, with 43 percent of Republicans but only 11 percent of Democrats saying that Obama was definitely or probably born outside the U.S.

 

Right, I agree. Trump IMO, never believed obama was not a born american. I think he used it to keep his name in the papers and on the news. Bad PR seems not to hurt him with his base, but perhaps helps him?

I think he is media savvy, much more than your regular politician. And he uses it and so far it seems to be working. The test is 2020.

 

The law also says there must be proof as well as a presumption of innocence of the accused, you've thrown that one out the window.

 

I did not vote for Trump, but if the election were held tomorrow, I'd stand in line all night to vote for him.

 

I've gone the gamut on this. First, Ford testified that she was NOT raped. So why are we even listening to this? It is obvious that Ford is a damaged person. However, I can't reconcile the degree of damage to her account of drunken rough play. Really? For this she is forever afraid of flying? I want to respect her testimony, but I am overcome with revulsion for the lily-.livered presentation.

Remember all those moms who killed their kids? Every one of them went before cameras with that same helpless demeanor, the high-pitched quavering voice, and the dry, emotionless eye. Fake fake fake. I saw more heart-rending emotion in Mrs. Kavenaugh, as she sought to remain stoic, but couldn't keep her chin from twitching and her eyes from filling with water.

Second, Ford's whole story does a huge disservice to real rape victims: women who not only felt their neck in a choke-hold but were lifted off the ground by that choke hold and slammed into a wall, beaten up, raped at gunpoint, and promised a revisit. Those women have a right to be damaged, not Ford. Her silly testimony of rude, drunken horseplay undermines the seriousness of real rape.

Third, whether it went the way she expected or not - she is complicit in character assassination. Although I concede she is mentally unstable and probably has confabulated memories, she still did not have the ethics, the moral fiber, or the dignity to rise to a standard of behavior that should be required of anyone employed by Stanford University.

 

Then many Vets are also the exception. She thought, or so she says, that he was gonna kill her(and I do not believe that at all given the circumstances) and me and many vets just knew we as teens were dead, that it was over as we witnessed some horrible things going on. That day is forever embedded in my memory and I wish I could have forgotten it. I don't think it works that way no matter what some psychologist says. Didn't work that way for me or several of the old vets I play poker with on weekends. Our trouble is we remember it all too well. Hell, I still have an occasional dream about it! Not like I once did where it would wake me up and I would be in a cold sweat. Hollering out and waking up my wife at that time.

If it did happen, I think she has added much hyperbole to it as some people tend to do. It may have been just a drunk teen getting frisky with his hands, and she called it an attempted rape. In those times this was more common, and not considered attempted rape. But today, it qualifies as an attempted rape. Things have changed, perceptions has changed over the decades. But when you look at the past standards for attempted rape and compare them to today, the bar has been lowered, and if one looks at a decades old event with today's eyes, what was not an attempted rape then becomes one. Is this really fair or reasonable? Not to me. I think it is clever deceit being employed in the interest of dirty rotten scoundrel politics by the democrats who have become quite good at these ploys. I would say the same of the GOP was doing it. And they are capable of it and have no doubt, will use the same tactics in the future as in the past.