Why in the World Did Black Men Vote for Trump?

It wasn’t black men who had any significant effect on the 2024 election. It was Hispanics. Black men voted almost identical for Trump this year as they did in 2020. Here the breakdown by gender and race.

White men 2020 60-37 Trump, 2024 61-38 Trump

White women 2020 55-44 Trump, 2024 53-45 Trump – Not much difference

Black men 2020 79-19 Biden, 2024 77-21 Harris

Black women 2020 90-9 Biden, 2024 91-7 Harris

Hispanic men 2020 59-36 Biden, 2024 55-43 Trump – Huge difference – from voting for Biden 2020 to voting for Trump in 2024. That’s from a plus 23 points for Biden to a minus 12. A swing of 35 points toward Trump.

Hispanic women 2020 69-30 Biden, 2024 60-38 Harris - Another big difference. From a plus 39 for Biden to a plus 22 for Harris. A swing of 17 points in favor of Trump.


https://www.cnn.com/election/2020/exit-polls/president/national-results


https://www.cnn.com/election/2024/exit-polls/national-results/general/president/0


Trump gained a point among white men and women from his 2020 showing, gained 2 points among black men, lost 2 points among black women. It was Hispanics that gave Trump his win. Trump gained 19 points above his 2020 performance from Hispanic men and gained 8 points from Hispanic women. Trump owes his election win to a minority group, Hispanics. Not from black men.

 

I always wondered why people kept saying Latinos are being "imported" into the US to become future Dem voters, when everything indicates they are just as likely to vote "R" as "D", and many naturalized Latinos are die heard Republicans

 

I've noticed for many years that the very most accurate unemployment report is Table A-15 ... the Bureau of Labor's
"Alternative measures of labor underutilization" -- specifically, the U-6 report. It is a dynamic report, and the figures change accordingly most often every month or two. Link: Table A-15. Alternative measures of labor underutilization - 2024 M10 Results

Using it, the current (as of October 2024) true unemployment rate is 7.7%.

Nevertheless, the Biden regime and the Federal Reserve prefer to use the U-3 report, which indicates an unemployment rate of 4.1%. And once you examine the tables, you realize why the people who print money, lower interest rates on savings accounts, and tell us how "rosy" everything is, with inflation well under control (?) feel justified when they hold their pep rallies on the economy....

 

The point the OP seems to be trying to make to feel good about themselves is that Trump voters are "uneducated" be they black men, hispanics, or lily white.

 

I think black men voted for Trump for the same reasons as anyone else. They made up their own minds just like anyone else.

 

A bunch of politically massaged numbers and definitions. No way either Party is going to truthfully report real unemployment and inflation rates, especially when they're all paying their media flacks to glorify how they are 'doing great' on both and making big noises over how many crappy low paying part time service industry jobs they're creating. True unemployment is way higher than '7.7 %', at least on the planet most of us live on.

 

That may be why the democrats lost. The democratic party was once known as the working mans party, the GOP, the party of business. What has happened over the years is the democratic party has gained the college grad, educated vote if you will, but lost the blue-collar vote, the working man’s vote. The democrats, Harris won the college grad vote this year 55-42 over Trump. Trump however won the blue collar vote, the working man’s vote 51-46 over Harris.


From 1972 through 2004 it was the republicans winning the college grad vote with the democrats winning the blue collar, working man’s vote. That was reversed in 2008 and has stayed that way since.

 

08.
The year of the black skin man as president. And democrat.

I noticed a shift back then. White America became woke.

 

Joe Biden had the most obvious answer that should solve any questions concerning this dilemma, If you voted for Trump, then you ain't black (by his definition.)

 

I don’t know what you mean white America became Woke. But the white vote has gone republican since 1964. LBJ that year was the last democrat to win the white vote. Of course, the black vote has been solid democratic since FDR. No real change this year. Historical standards prevailed. The Hispanic vote wasn’t kept track of until 1980, they voted democratic ever since. But Trump’s 46% of the Hispanic vote this year the highest ever for a republican presidential candidate. Trump actually won the Hispanic men’s vote 55-43 over Harris which was offset by Hispanic women voting for Harris 60-38.

https://www.pewresearch.org/race-and-ethnicity/2012/11/07/latino-voters-in-the-2012-election/

 

Uh yeah it ended badly. Though covid is a bit of a confounder.

 

Doesn't even need to be slaves. Workers are simply paid less in countries that make things with low-skill labor. It doesn't make any sense for a high-cost, high-skill economy to try to compete with them, and it makes even less sense to force us to compete with them via tariffs. That puts us at a major disadvantage vs other economies and lowers our standard of living.

Combining tariffs with expelling our own cheap labor (immigrants) is a sure recipe for higher prices.

 

The rate of death actually went up under Biden. Democrat policies made the pandemic worse which is part of the reason they got destroyed in the election.

 

Well of course it would. More people will die later in a pandemic than early on. Far more people infected later. And it didn't help that the subsequent strains (before omicron) turned out to be deadlier. Had nothing to do with Biden policies. Some to do with republican policies more locally. What you suggest would be completely in conflict with the facts, but political operatives run with whatever they can.

 

When you literally force doctors to take a potentially lethal "vaccine" you are doing something wrong. When the government is censoring treatments that didn't donate to the Biden administration, it looks bad.

 

Risks for the vaccine were overstated. Unfortunately even some doctors fell to the propaganda due to their political ties. But yeah, we don't want doctors to refuse vaccination to a sometimes deadly, sometimes asymptomatic pandemic disease and treat patients. Personally I would just make them wear N95s during the pandemic, but I can understand the reasoning for removing them. Yes, wearing an N95 all day does suck. I have done it.

Government was censoring misinformation as interpreted by experts, not Biden. Experts operate on evidence - the evidence wasn't there. Recommending treatments without evidence is against the standard of practice.

 

I don't know where you got that chart but it probably matches that data we have now. The real figures will probably have to wait for Pew's election autopsy. But I like this since it matches what I thought the black male vote for Trump would be. There were some people who were predicting over 25% black male vote for Trump, but that seemed way too optimistic. 21% percent makes more sense.

What's really interesting (and this hurt the Democrats nationwide) is the decline of black male voter participation, since the 2012 election, it's gone down every 4 years (according to Ryan Girdusky). That decline in voter participation is a real head scratcher.

 

The risks were primarily associated with those who already had Covid. This meant essentially all medical personnel. I like how you feel the need to talk about evidence as you defend firing medical personnel for following evidence. Natural immunity has been around for hundreds of years.

 

Let's see, conspiracy theory, too much time on right-wing media and Hispanics don't reliably vote Democrat.

That's more of a partisan right-wing theory that I am sure Blacks would not agree with.

I have talked to real flesh and blood Black males and they don't understand it. What do you mean by "put them back on that plantation"? Another conspiracy theory?

Uh, of course they are and I was giving my opinion of why they did and you did not. Was it because the illegals are taking Black jobs?

What was "extremely bigoted and misandrist"? I was giving theories as to why they would align themselves with racist. They held their noses. You sound triggered.

And I was giving guesses as to why they did.

Yes, Hispanics have many subcultures and are a variable voting block. Cubans, Puerto Ricans, Mexicans, Venezuelans.....do not vote alike.

 

the problem is the liberal lie that does not distinguish between immigrants and illegals

 

Are you not clear which group is in question when people say "Latinos are being imported into the US". It's in regards to both, - illegals, and asylum seekers (legal). It's you who can't distinguish between the two.

In the future, if/when such people are naturalized, they are just as likely to vote "R" than "D". Lot of Cubans came illegally, but were fast-tracked to citizenship, and they vote Republican.

 

But the democrats treated Hispanic as a monolithic voting block which prior to this election they were probably right.


https://www.pewresearch.org/race-and-ethnicity/2012/11/07/latino-voters-in-the-2012-election/

 

And like all Americans some are susceptible to Trump's cynical demagoguery.

 

True. But I think the main reason were people voting their pocketbook over what they thought of Trump, good or bad. 56% of all Americans disapproved of the job Biden and his administration had done.


https://www.realclearpolling.com/polls/approval/joe-biden/approval-rating


This was especially true with Biden and company handling of inflation and the economy. 62% of all Americans disapproved of his handling of inflation and 59% disapproved of his handling of the economy in general.


https://www.realclearpolling.com/polls/approval/joe-biden/issues/inflation


https://www.realclearpolling.com/polls/approval/joe-biden/issues/economy


Even with Trump as her opponent, the above was way too much for Harris to overcome. We’ve had 8 elections since WWII where a sitting president’s overall job approval was below 50%. Either the sitting president lost reelection or the sitting president’s replacement lost the next election.

 

I have talked to real flesh and blood black men too. They're the ones that come in the store starting at about 4:30 a.m. because they are taking their ass to work.

And several of them voted for Trump and have no problem telling anyone and they voted for him for the same exact reasons that everyone else did.

This is 2024 and it has been a long time since Democrats have been legally allowed to own black people. They don't own them and they don't own their vote and they are not owed anything by any citizen