Why is cross-dressing allowed but not public nudity?

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  1. JeffLV

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    Lol. The man speaketh the truth
     
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    How do you determine what's "cross dressing?" Would you ban a ban from wearing skinny jeans, a man from Scotland from wearing a kilt, a man wearing anything you deem "unmanly" or "feminine?" Or are you only talking about a man that tries to pass as a woman in public? What exactly is your criteria for what is considered crossdressing?

    I'm personally fine with people cross dressing in public. Doesn't affect me one way, and I'm sure most people wouldn't care, even if they felt uncomfortable around a crossdresser.
     
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    Magnifying glass. :)
     
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    Some states allow nudism in public, but private businesses have the right to refuse service to nudists. There are still laws against nudism in certainplaces, like restarants.
     
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    The difference being...cross dresser are wearing clothes...nudists are not.

    If you need someone to explain that to you...I have to wonder if your IQ is in the low fifties.
     
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    That sums it up nicely.
     
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    And thus ends the thread
     
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    And why is "not wearing clothes" (being in a natural state) more offensive than protraying yourself publicly as mentally confused and/or suffering from a psychological disorder? I think seeing someone suffering is more offensive than seeing someone in a natural state - that's why I'd almost be fine with cross-dressing, at least in public places being illegal for the same reason that public nudity is - it causes an unpleasant distraction and some people don't want to look at it or have their kids look at it
     
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    I was in the pool! I was in the pool!
     
  10. dairyair

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    I remember folks talking how women in pants was disturbing.
     
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    Essentially, yes.
     
  12. dairyair

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    Are you walking around your house nude in front of your kids?

    If not, why? You see nothing wrong with it.
     
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    It isn't - wearing pants has a more practical purpose than wearing a dress (ex. try motorcycle riding in a mini-skirt). So women adopted pants for utilitarian reasons, not because they "wanted to look like men".

    But since dresses, makeup, etc are less practical - a man who wears a dress has a different motive than a woman who wears pants (ex. he has a psychological disorder or confusion and "wants to be a woman")

    So that's why the above is unnatural, but women wearing pants is natural - the motives are different.

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    People in some African tribes live day to day entirely clotheless, what do you have to say about them? Or would that make you 'racist'?

    I think if I had to pick, I'd rather someone walk around nude in front of my kids (not that I'd be "down with it") than walk around dressed like a tranny.

    I don't think 'being nude' in front of people is exactly good - and yeah as others mentioned there's health reasons for it - but I think it's less disturbing than me having to explain to little Johnny why "Uncle John" started calling himself "Joan" and wearing "Auntie Martha's" dresses
     
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    You didn't answer my question. Do you walk around your house nude in front of your children?

    And, if you saw uncle John nude with your kids, you still may have to answer, "now I see why he's wearing aunt martha's" dresses. He should put a dress on.
     
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    My Wife had a cross dressing co worker man who was cross dressing at work and using the ladies bathroom.
     
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    Because at least cross-dressers keep themselves covered.
     
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    He should be fired - I mean is guy legally recognized as 'transgender', or is he just some drag queen who decides to whip out his dick in the ladies' bathroom?
     
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    At least nudists don't cross dress
     
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    Except in the 80s there were woman's suits for business that were designed specifically to make women look more like men. With shoulder pads even. Is that unnatural and wrong?

    Not necessarily. There are many men who are not wanting to be women. They dress up. I have a friend who has a whole different persona when he dresses up. He has no psychological disorder and in fact he is a sought after speaker and teacher.

    This statement is either ill informed or complete trolling.



    Can you name the tribes...where they are?

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    Good for you. But here is the thing....it isn't your call when it comes to other people.

    Only you see that is because you are remarkably close minded.
     
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    They didn't wear them "because they wanted" to look like men - if they did then that's pretty silly - but pretty much everything that used to be designated for "men" that was adopted by women (ex. wearing pants, having jobs, getting education, voting, etc) was done for practical reasons - not just because women were identity confused and wanted to "be men".

    A way better analogy would be a woman taking facial hair growth drugs and trying to grow a beard just because she 'wants to look like a man' or craves the negative attention - I don't think that's exactly healthy or normal way to express yourself.
    It's not a practical motive - that's the difference right there - I don't believe there's any natural or healthy reason why a person would feel a compulsion to 'dress up' like opposite sex, just to do it. It has no practical benefit whatsoever, and has many negative factors associated with it.

    It's factual - do you think women demanded the right to vote just because "they wanted to be men"?




    Pretty much any national geographic cover.

    No it's common sense and backed up by evidence - people who are discontent with the genetics they were born with aren't very happy people. It's no different than anorexia, or compulsive plastic surgery, or Michael Jackson wanting to make his skin white - the way I see it. Unless there's something "wrong" with being born a man/woman - there's no reason to feel the need to be anything else.
     
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    Cross dressing goes against my faith, but I still don't get why you think it's so much worse than a naked person. Please explain why.

    Your opinion on this issue seems very interesting, and I want to know why you believe that cross dressing in public is worse than being naked in public.
     
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    Basically I'm talking about people who either 'identify' as the other sex, or have a fetish that involves dressing as the opposite sex

    I think it's a disorder similar to anorexia or compulsive plastic surgery - because the person hates their genetic self just for being "the way they are" I find that disturbing - and I find it more disturbing that there's an "agenda" to normalize this and promote behavior which likely contributes to further identity confusion
     
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    Okay. But you still didn't explain exactly why/how it's somehow worse than public nudity.
     
  24. GeddonM3

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    no offense but for the decency of many people, especially children, we dont need to see your junk flapping in the wind or the piece of toilet paper hanging out of your ass crack.

    I would like to eat my dinner in a place where i know some naked person hasnt rubbed their (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*) all over the seat im about to sit in. and the last thing we need is a bunch of naked people around a kids playground or in public pools with them.

    and as crossdressing may be kind of odd, at least they are covering up their junk and a lot of times you are not even paying close enough attention to even notice a crossdresser right in front of you.
     
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    Apparently they find it acceptable. My Wife was very creeped out.
     

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