Why is everyone so opposed to white nationalism?

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  1. Super21

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    Our fundamental goal is the 14 words: we must secure the existence of our people and a future for white children. What is wrong with this? We simply do not want white America to be replaced with non-white immigrants because of the left. Please explain your feelings!
     
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    Because it is based on faulty one-drop-of-blood logic and pathetically tries to blame voluntary interracial relationships for "genocide." White America isn't being replaced. They just may become the plurality instead of the majority. And there is nothing inherently wrong with that. Telling people they can't come here and work and contribute to our society because we want to entertain a race fantasy is just silly. And luckily unpopular.
     
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    Civil war guilt
     
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    If everyone was in an interracial relationship, what will happen to the white race?

    That's a lie. A plurality, and then a minority, and then extinction.

    Why do we have to save the world?
     
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    I'm white and understand the sense of being overwhelmed. When I was starting hs, my neighborhood and school were overrun with black and Latino gangs. But I learned that gangs are more about poverty and the war on drugs, than color.

    Hitler wanted an all-white country too.

    Have you read the Constitution? Where does it say this is a country for white people?

    America has long prided itself as a bastion of freedom for people of all colors. It was never true but at least we aspired to that ideal.

    See the Statue of Liberty. Does it say give us your white people? Did you know that the statue was actually modeled on a Middle-Eastern woman, and not a white woman?

    White people don't make as many babies. That is the math.
     
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    Because your fundamental goal - a white America, can ONLY be achieved through terror and murder to get the non-white Amercans to leave, people who may have been here hundreds of years before your ancestors arrived.

    White nationalists are just nazi-lite. They aren't willing to admit the horrors that would have to be committed to achieve their goal. A sick and twisted goal.
     
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    I thought it was looking bad when every color, save white, were playing the boo hoo I'm a victim of racism/bigotry card. Now whites are doing it.

    This is NOT going to end well for anyone.....
     
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    White people have been in interracial relationships ever since there have been white people and non-white people. Yet white people are still around.

    Besides, it depends on your definition of what constitutes a "pure" race. Back when our country was dumb enough to try to enforce racial purity with laws, they found themselves in the odd position of having to define who counted as *actually* being white. Which they failed miserably at. From what I recall, if 1/32nd of your ancestry wasn't white, you didn't count. Today we can actually test that kind of thing with genetics. Based on that kind of one-drop-of-blood rule, almost everyone who is in a relationship is in an interracial relationship, and that's been the case for almost all of our history as a species.

    That's a lie known as the slippery slope fallacy.

    Read the part you quoted again. I had nothing to do with saving the world. It spoke strictly in terms of our nation's interests. That said, if you owe nothing to the rest of the world, I owe nothing to your collectivist notions of your race. That's part of why white nationalism fails: it would require force in order to accomplish its goals.
     
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    Also, I can't get over how hypocritical this is. You don't want to owe anything to the rest of the world, but you want everyone in the world to owe something to your collective race. You even want members of your race to sacrifice their own interests and subjugate their will to the race as a whole, forgoing individualism entirely.
     
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    Perhaps it is this.

    This is a group of white nationalists, members of KKK, and neo-Nazis marching on the campus of the U of V on Friday.

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    Now watch this video showing this heavily armed bunch marching down a street in Charlottesville the next day.

    https://twitter.com/_CraigStanley/status/896349016929206272
     
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    It is an arbitrary line to draw. There are countless ethnicities among whites. I suspect you have no problem with two white ethnicities breeding until neither exists. Yet you draw the line when whites might breed with blacks until neither exists. So why is it that you don't care when Franks breed with Anglo Saxons? Simple. There's no logic at all to your beliefs. You just hate blacks. It's plain as day. That hatred drives you to cling to any ideology that is consistent with your hatred, no matter how little sense it makes.
     
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    I think you've probably come the closest in this thread (so far) to nailing down one of the major problems of white nationalism; it just doesn't make any sense when you can get a dozen white nationalists in a room and get a dozen answers as to what a "white person" is. So there really is no logic to their beliefs

    Ethnonationalism is a real thing because it's about actual, real, ethnicities that include not just bloodline but culture. I can't tell the difference between an English Anglo-Saxon and a Scottish Celt but they sure can; not just language and culture but they can pick out telltale ethnic traits that I wouldn't spot. And that's true among Prussians

    Who is white? Are Turks? Are Armenians? Danny Thomas was Lebanese. Was he white? He looked Italian to me, aren't they white? There is no rhyme or reason to white nationalism and there is no cultural basis to bind various whites together in the US except under a generic "American" ethnicity. Needless to say, the idea of white nationalism doesn't really exist; they have real nationalisms to worry about.
     
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    Well, a few years back, there was this war that was started by White Nationalists

    Minor scuffle, 80 million or so dead or something....

    In all seriousnous, I get your frustration. Every other gender, race, creed, or whatever is allowed to gather and show their support for one another. You guys are not, I really do think this sucks and is extremely hypocritical.

    But you do gotta rememebr that is still less than 100 years ago, those scars take some serious time to fade.
     
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    So basically you learned to tolerate what shouldn't be tolerated! I don't want poverty here.

    Guilt by association dude. Plus I am not a neo-Nazi. Hitler shouldn't be used as an excuse to terminate the white race.

    You haven't read the 1790 Naturalization ACt. Why do you think this country was white for so long?

    That is a leftist lie.

    Yeah, we should follow a racist Zionist hypocrite to change our history and kill off our race.

    It was done to model Ishtar by a freemason.

    This is no excuse to give up. We will turn this around.
     
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    Get with the program. It's about not being black or Latino

    Were you really fooled?
     
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    I explained to you in Ronstars thread why you are misguided. Your post is all wrong.
     
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    SO you are basically for ignoring our race troubles and replacing white America with non-whites?
     
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    You are lying to yourself. There is NO WAY to get your "white" America without harming non-white Americans. You can pretend differently - but it is a lie. Your goals are simply nazi-lite. Fewer calories, but no less f**ked up.
     
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    Yes, but not nearly to this level.

    You mean segregation?

    I am opposed to segregation within a country.

    Id maybe believe you if the establishment leftists wanted to stop or limit non-white immigrants from coming here, but they don't. There is no possible way we can accept practically a million non-whites a year indefinitely and exist as a race. IF you believe that you are incredibly dumb, naïve or just don't want to accept reality (no pun intended).

    How is it in the national interest to replace whites, and only whites, with other races?

    No. How so?
     
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    You obviously didn't read my post.

    #1 - there is no way in hell we will achieve a "white nation" in my lifetime or in for a VERY long ass time. It will take many generations. All I want is pro-white policies to make America progressively more and more white just like the leftists made America progressively non-white. It is not moral to harm non-whites.
     
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    So having experienced this first hand, this is the future you're preparing for this country, for your own children? Brilliant.
     
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    What is there to be afraid of? I even saw an armed black guy marching with the WNs!

    Why don't you show the violent, antifa criminal goofballs attacking us?
     
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    US? Were you there with your Nazi buddies?
     
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    I do, but this is a different topic.

    I don't want Europe to be one state because I want to preserve what is left of the white ethnicities. But America is already mixed among whites.

    Theres no logic because you are using strawmen arguments. No wonder.

    You just want to replace whites with non-whites and hate this country. Its plain as day. :rolleyes:
     
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    LOL. As clearly shown by all events of the day, your biggest enemies are patriotic whites.
     
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