Why is Obamacare Failing?

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  1. RtWngaFraud

    RtWngaFraud Banned

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    ....and the majority of them are exactly as you describe..
     
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    ...and a license to avoid any responsibility for anything other than their own profit...
     
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    WRONG, WRONG. None of that would be there without uncle sugar. You wouldn't be here either. The corporation wouldn't be here either without government, never happen. You cons are missing a few cogs, because all those things exist because of government, not because we don't have one. lol! Thanks for the laugh.:roflol:
     
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    Iriemon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That's funny, we have had scores of conservative "experts" here tell us how Obama owns the economy when bad news is reported.
     
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    Yeah, and I enjoy you people that are almost always wrong and to gullible, but whats new, huh? From your article, 1950s ~ DARPA - ARPA

    The Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA) is an agency of the United States Department of Defense responsible for the development of new technologies for use by the military. DARPA has been responsible for funding the development of many technologies which have had a major effect on the world, including computer networking, as well as NLS, which was both the first hypertext system, and an important precursor to the contemporary ubiquitous graphical user interface.

    ARPA-DARPA: The Name ChroniclesOver the years, DARPA has been known as ARPA. Below is the history of its name:

    ARPA 1958 - DoD Directive 5105.15, establishing the Advanced Research Projects Agency (ARPA), was signed on February 7, 1958. The directive gave ARPA the responsibility "for the direction or performance of such advanced projects in the field of research and development as the Secretary of Defense shall, from time to time, designate by individual project or by category."

    DARPA 1972 - On March 23, 1972, by DoD Directive, DARPA was established as a separate defense agency under the Office of the Secretary of Defense.
     
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    :rock_slayer:Yeah, I am laughing to!!!!:roflol:
     
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    LMAO!! Manages it? Yes, it owns it, it uses it, it sits on it, it sends it, it......LMAO!! Anything else you stupid cons want to add!!! LMAO!! :roflol:

    How about production and operation of 600 dams producing electric energy for the use of the general public? Owns and operates 24 percent of the U.S. hydropower capacity in the U.S. .

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    GPS was created and realized by the U.S. Department of Defense (DoD) and was originally run with 24 satellites. It became fully operational in 1995. Bradford Parkinson, Roger L. Easton, and Ivan A. Getting are credited with inventing it.
     
  8. Smartmouthwoman

    Smartmouthwoman Bless your heart Past Donor

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    LOOK, A SQUIRREL!!!

    Well, I see lefties were successful in taking this thread 10 miles off-topic. No surprise there... it's what they do.

    To bring things back to topic... here's an update on healthcare.gov's FB page. I know all you Obama lovers like to hear what a failure Obamacare is.

    Hope y'all had a chance to peruse healthcare.gov's facebook page yesterday. They did some heavy housecleaning overnight. Where there were nearly 5,000 comments, there are now 150. However, the comments that do appear there now are fairly new... some today. Much like the entire program, their FB page is a scrambled mess. But it's the only place you'll hear REAL stories people are trying to pass along to their govt. On their own website.

    Bookmark this page: https://www.facebook.com/Healthcare.gov

    Here's an informative exchange:

     
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    Wait. Didn't you say yesterday Healthcare.gov Facebook page only had positive comments? lol...
     
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    There are so many LUDICROUS and baseless assumptions in the OP. The OP is basically a bad one.
     
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    now now, as a lib, you should know that the river produces the water, that spins the turbines, that Man harvests. But Man does not produce the river.

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    so, you worship tyranny......I can understand that......most lazy people do.......especially when it appears to favor them
     
  12. Smartmouthwoman

    Smartmouthwoman Bless your heart Past Donor

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    You must be confused. I said most of the positive comments were obvious shills. Not just my opinion...


    Educate yourself: https://www.facebook.com/Healthcare.gov
     
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    There's nothing like Facebook as a source of the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth.
     
  14. Smartmouthwoman

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    Couldn't agree more... after all, it is the official government site.

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    LOL! Yeah, pretty simple! :321:
     
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    LMAO! WRONG, WRONG. Try again, maybe you will get lucky next time!! Stop being a Moocher.
     
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    Of course you don't create anything, it has always been here, like the water in the river, the metal in the minerals, the glass in the sand, etc. :roflol:

    Why do you insist on being a moocher and think resources are free to change as you please? You are just an insignifienct dust spot in the Universe of life, why do you think others should have a free ride with production? You must be a poor moocher with those lofty ideas of yours.
     
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    Your post, if you really pay attention to it, has no real resemblance to logic. You say the government has forced their way into everything. That sounds so shallow and driven with hate. You do understand that everything that is produced requires a foundation. A building block if you will, to start something. With the inclusion of govt. we begin a process of currency or money, and the gathering of raw materials, such as wood and metals, which are the foundation of something that can be produced. No one person is or can do all this alone without a coordinated effort. Laws must be established to ensure trespass permits on said lands to begin this process. Because if you didn't, everyone would be fighting each other over the same ground. Ownership and laws must be established first, just to get access to these materials. Then it takes a group to coordinate and learn to put these materials to good use. This process can only begin if a group of people etch out agreements for all of this to happen. These agreements are how governments are eventually formed. It is the only way to move forward from a production of something standpoint.

    How it is a cancer is beyond me. Without the coordinated effort of a group/ or government, nothing would ever happen. This group of people have to agree on a set of rules to get started or it never starts. No matter what it is we are doing.
     
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    bub, I've been paying for my own insurance for 38 years. You don't have any insurance because mummu and dada tossed your ass out of the house because they were tired of taking care of a dead beat. Nope, You are the moocher/ I bet you're are covered, Right? For the absolute low end prices with the highest deductibility that money can buy. Or are you still on mummu and dada's plan? Or basic state welfare aid.....either way, you're not paying for it.
    I also paid for three children's worth of insurance until they were 24 and bought their own.
     
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    so, you're saying, none of this is possible without government? Or are you parroting what the Lib Mantra Book says? Jesus, son, you have quite a limited view with history.
    I wasn't aware that Edison had a "group" that helped him invent the bulb and phonograph.
    Whitney had no such group to create the cotton gin.
    Ford reinvented the production line, without government help.
    Marconi invented the radio without government help.
    Morse invented the telegraph without government intervention.
    Orville and Wilbur's first flight was done out of their bicycle repair shop, without government funding.
    I make $2000 chests without government aid of any kind.
    I built my own millshop without any help from the government which I use to restore historical buildings.
    My brother invented a new chip board that he sold to TI, without government help.
    People can and have done the greatest things without the intervention of the government.
    Let's look at the governments track record....
    35 years worth of aids research and still no cure.
    75 years worth of research into cancer and still no cures. Treatments only.
    Wars on everything that have never ended, Drugs, Crime, Poverty.......
    Still no production forthcoming. They get all as the result of the individual either by stealing or buying.
    God created the real estate your talking about, not the government.
    God gave these people insight to create some of the most marvelous things, not government of Man.
    So when you say, "you didn't build that," that is a foolish thing to say. Only small minded people claim success on someone else's accomplishments.
    Famers were producing crops long before governments existed.
    Farmers were selling their products long before this government ever existed.
    Inventors were inventing long before governments. Can we say, wheel? Cart? Bow and arrow?
    Even firearms were the invention of an individual.
    The government's only credit is that it takes from the inventor and devise ways to deploy those inventions against other Men.
    The government does not create anything, it destroys, taxes, or bans what it cannot control. The government is a deterrent to self-achievement.
    Government produces nothing. Natural resources were here long before governments existed. Man was harvesting these resources long before government stepped in to regulate.
    Almost everything the government touches becomes tainted with regulations and rules,. Major corporations seize new inventions and bury them with the aid of governments.
    There is no need to talk about money because it is worthless.
    Government does, however, create massive debt loads it will never pay off.
    Government's answer to everything is done at the point of a gun.
    Governments are responsible for every international war there has ever been.
    Government steals the wealth of a nation. If it doesn't move tax it. If it moves, tax it three times.
    Finances....A private bank controls the currency and the value of said currency, not the government.
    Government is never the creator, only another mooch looking to cash in on someone else's accomplishments.
     
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    Dear well-intended America, please wake up.

    The past five years have profited/gained nothing. The administration and constituants behind the wheel have offered nothing more than rhetoric, falsities, and misguided government born ideologies. The truth is that government run programs stunt economic growth. It is a design, proven through history, to borrow from hard-working classes to fund a basin of entitlement based purely upon the perception of need.

    The AHCA fails upon it's base of monetary structure, principle of law, and the ineptitude of those designing and enforcing it. The recipe for it's failure lies in it's exact nature of modus operatus and the nature of free-market society which the US economic society is based upon.

    Perpetualization is not the same as charity. Perpetualization is not based upon gain. An economic system without gain is begging for failure.

    Progressive ideals are based upon perpetualization but fail to calculate society as a whole willing to participate for goods/product/services. It is unsustainable for growth without participation.

    This comparison is akin to a ship at sea with a hole in it's hull. It will stay afloat for time but is destined to sink.
     
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    Idiocy at some point as a way of really being annoying. I will address one of these, for that is all that is needed. You say you make chests for $2000.00 dollars. Great! Except you left out a few minor details; https://www.google.com/search?q=Ima...logspot.com%2F2012_08_01_archive.html;960;740


    Without government creating a "GOVERNMENT" that creates a means to acquire and produce materials to obtain the lumber you need and to buy a saw through commercial means by which the saw was built some where else besides the store you are buying it from, conforming to certain "GOVERNMENT" standards of course, by which the saw can actually be approved by someone :wink: :wink: government for safety purposes by a qualified person, I'd say your wood work wouldn't go very far without "GOVERNMENT". This is just a small example. But just look at the image I posted and ask yourself if you could build your chests without all these guys involved.
     
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    Gotta love the bootlickers. Just wonder how many remain such loyal supporters of Big Brother when there's a Republican in the wh.

    Liberal, thy name is hypocrite.
     
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    There is a good chance there will never be another Republican in the Whitehouse. As long as they let media besotted conservatives speak for them, who would vote for them? Only the owners of the Party. The Koch brothers, Donald Trump, Sheldon Adelson, Rush Limbaugh, Dick Cheney, Grover Norquist, Karl Rove, John Boehner, Mitch McConnell, Cal Thomas, etc.

    As a real Republican, I see more and more like me ready for the big flush.

    I see more and more like you, swirling the bowl.
     
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    I approach corporate America with the knowledge that they have built this country, but are not infallible to corruption and other problems. Don't forget that under the veil of "corporate America" are the thousands of other businesses that are not on the stock market.

    The federal government would not be the leviathan it is without corporate America. I find it funny how you chastise that which has provided everything for you, yet you trust the federal government which is beyond broke and the most corrupt entity in this country.
     
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