Why is there an orchestrated effort to normalize and legitimaize homosexuality?

Discussion in 'Gay & Lesbian Rights' started by slackercruster, Feb 10, 2013.

  1. Johnny-C

    Johnny-C Well-Known Member

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    I think what looks "orchestrated" to you, is mainly people becoming more aware of what homosexuality ACTUALLY is and isn't. (The internet has helped.) Gays aren't the flesh-eating, child-devouring monsters many have sought to paint them as being. More and more people are realizing that the gay person is their neighbor, doctor, postman, military veteran, policeman, family member... etc. They are NOT the strange and dangerous stranger lurking in the shadows.

    This is 'enlightenment' taking place... not necessarily or exclusively an "orchestrated worldwide effort". People are just coming slowly and naturally to their senses, much as many have concerning the more fundamentalist types of 'religion' have over time.

    Many surely don't care. Even so, how would 'caring' make it 'wrong'? We've had centuries of mythology expounded upon concerning gays and even to the point that the "truth" about homosexuals seems strange; go figure.

    A SMALL majority exercised a form of TYRANNY over a group of people, for less than fully valid or tenable reasons.

    It does not surprise me a single iota that homophobia affects many and that homophobes know well how to speak 'loudly' in this society. Things are changing slowly and for good reason.

    (See the above.)
     
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    SpaceCricket79 New Member Past Donor

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    Homosexuals have more or less the same basic rights as anyone else, and in some countries being a Christian is still punishable by death, so what's your point?

    The real problem with gays isn't that they need acceptance, it's that they need to grow a thicker skin and just accept that when less than 5% of the population live your lifestyle, it's going to seem a little weird to the majority - trying to force 'tolerance' on people is just stupid.
     
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    Nah. You just need to realize that the days of hate and demonization are over. 100 years from now, SSM will be in place on most of the planet (ignorant Muslim countries may not come along), and will be something nobody even thinks twice about. It'll be normal, and they'll look back on us and wonder what kind of savages we were that it wasn't always that way.
     
  4. Johnny-C

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    Homosexuals do NOT have equal rights and this is America.

    So... what's your point?

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    Yep. It seems that the homophobic idiocy of the past is difficult for some to let go of.

    Yes, indeed.
     
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    Osiris Faction Well-Known Member

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    Nice attempt at a dodge, why don't you actually reply to what I post and then maybe you can claim you have a rebuttal.
     
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    Osiris Faction Well-Known Member

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    You seem to be under the false impression that you have a say in anyone elses relationship.

    Doesn't matter if it is heterosexual or homosexual you're opinion of said relationship is meaningless.

    Might be hard for you to accept but you don't have influence in anyone's relationship.
     
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    Osiris Faction Well-Known Member

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    You seem to labor under the false assumption or ideal that acceptance is a real matter here.

    Your acceptance is meaningless, unwanted, unneeded, pointless.

    However, legal equality is the goal and its what we are winning, more and more each year.
     
  8. Johnny-C

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    You are 100% correct.
     
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    I am fine, as long as yo have no arguments, by trying to attack my opinion you actually have supported my point of view.
    Personally I do not care about relationship between people, however I am absolutely against public policy that forces me to pay for government sponsored homosexuality.
     
  10. Johnny-C

    Johnny-C Well-Known Member

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    Why shouldn't someone be able to disagree with you, even attack your "opinion"? (I figure we should all be used to that here in the forum.)

    Do you really think that you view of right/wrong is all it takes to define another person's rights or humanity? I pretty certain that you don't think that is the case.

    What are homosexual people paying for with their 'taxes'?
     
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    Osiris Faction Well-Known Member

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    Tough nookies, I'm against paying for heterosexual couples.

    Nothing I can do about, nothing you can do about it either.
     
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    Sure you can. Stop support for selective privileges.
    Every type of relationship should be equally recognized, with all equal benefits for every couple.
    That is very simple.

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    Yes, and you want homosexuals pay taxes for their own benefits, while other people pay for your privileges
     
  13. Johnny-C

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    That is both untrue AND silly.

    Please, try making some sense.
     
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    No its mainly the orchestrated efforts of the APA.
     
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    That is completely misguided to suggest. You're just supporting homophobic thinking, IMO.
     
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    dixon76710 Well-Known Member

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    Its a fact

    stop the insult, please
     
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    No, you are incorrect. And a reasonably educated person will KNOW that.

    mod edit...response to deleted remark
     
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    Gays are homolesters such as Jerry Sandusky & the priests who homolest boys-they are homosexuals 33% of gays report homosexual rape in youth. Many gays and lesbians who commit suicide do so because they often were childhood sex abuse victims and many have other copathologies such as antisocial conduct, drugs, etc. Sex abuse in youth is major cause of homosexual behaviors & transexaulity-to deny it is dishonest, delusional or both. It remains to be seen how many of Jerry Sandusky's victims think they're gay & transexual because of this. Homosexual/lesbian sexual behaviors :toilet: are bad for health often as result of childhood sex abuse though there possibly other causes such as birth defect though they've not conclusively proven gayism's inborn.
     
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    33% of sports star own a Ferrari. Therefore Ferraris are major causes of being sports stars. Jesus, man, even when it comes to correlation, "33% of a group exhibits behavior X" is kinda low to be a "major" link. :lol: Normally you aren't worth responding to, but this was just hilarious. Like, correlation-causation fallacy, and not even on a strong correlation! 33% is incredibly weak when trying to assert something like this. What percentage of sexually abused youth are homosexual?
     
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    Sober drivers cause more wrecks than do drunk drivers. Perhaps we should ban driving while sober?
     
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    Because it is clear to most people that there is nothing abnormal or illegitimate about it.
     
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    Yes, and gingers have red hair because they were raped by leprechauns.
     
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    All you are doing here, is expressing an extreme and irrational aversion to homosexuality and homosexual people.

    And also throwing a sizable amount of irrational animus to boot. :(
     
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    So what about the homosexuals who haven't been molested or raped (by your figured, 66% of them)?
     
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    There could be other causes which haven't been conclusively proven such as genes, but if that's true then the gay gene would be the same thing as a cancer or heart attack gene. We should work to find a cure for the gay gene if indeed this is true. It's undebatable truth that if a person's a victim of childhood sex abuse, then it's more likely he or she will do gay/lesbian conduct repeating what he learned-those who deny are either dishonest, delusional or both. Many gays were victims of homosexual rapes when they were boys such as by gay priests. It's right to be 'bigoted' against homosexuality and transexuality (which is worse) just as it's right to be 'bigoted' against cocaina smoking.
     

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