If embryos and fetuses are actual (as opposed to potential) human BEINGS, why do we celebrate BIRTHdays instead of conception days?
Because lifers know that a fetus becomes a person on the day it is born, they just don't want to admit it.
because we are celebrating the day the child emerges from the womb. It's when we can see and hold the cuddly wuddly little cutey I believe you are asking why don't we celebrate "life day" ? You see, that baby has been alive for quite a while prior to the birth and those who celebrate birthdays, just like you, are no doubt quite thankful to their mommy that they can celebrate their birthday and were not killed while in the womb. You are appreciative that your mommy didn't abort you; aren't you?
I love that quote from Ronnie .. it really shows how completely lacking in substance the pro life position is. Yeah .. duh .. doph .. geeze mom .. thx for not aborting me. LOL Tell ya what. Lets presume that one is appriciates the fact that mommy did not abort. So what ?
Who's stopping you from celebrating conception days? So it's like immigration then? Someone gets granted personhood once they're on the right side of the border?
not sure I follow you however all of those who condone killing babies are themselves, a living breathing hypocricy
I do not like killing babies but since there is no valid proof that a baby exists in the early stages of pregnancy your comment is emotional pandering. Your argument that I should be able to force my will on others because my mother did not "kill me" is absurd. 1) my mothers actions have nothing to do with the actions of another person 2) She could not kill me because I did not exist .. at conception was only the "potential" for me to exist. Am I glad she let me achieve that potential ..? who knows, perhaps the place I was before was better. Can you say it wasn't ? Your argument boils down to the value we place on "potential". Did I value that potential at the time ? Obviously not because I did not exist. Did my mother value that potential .. Yes she did. For women that wish to have a baby .. certainly that potential is of more value for women that dont. At the end of the day it is the womans choice to make.
Most people don't know the exact date of conception. We celebrate Birth Days because that is when we first meet the child. Conception is when the child receives it's life, but we really can not see it with our own eyes. Before modern days people didn't know if the child would be a girl or a boy It was a complete mystery to them until the day of birth.
What if mommy had an abortion when she was 17, and didn't have you until she was 30? Do you think its likely she would have given birth to you, if she didn't have the abortion? I've raised this question before but never got a response. Considering the statistics on abortion, I find it hard to believe there are many families in this country who's ancestors haven't had an abortion, and who consequently (and ironically in some cases) actually owe their lives to abortion.
Most of your own partners in crime on the "pro choice " side don't even agree with you there. A fetus a human being when it is created at the zygote stage. All pro choicers know this, but are not honest enough to admit it!
You cannot always pinpoint the exact date of conception, just as you cannot always pinpoint the exact day a woman is expected to give birth.
