Why not gun license & registration?

Sorry... but I refuse to cater to the STALE, OLD paradigms which suggest that we consider or try NOTHING new.

It's too easy and useless to just sit back and 'believe' that the way things are now, is the best they'll ever be.

That just doesn't ring with sanity or wisdom, in my view. And I'm not here to hand YOU nor those who represent me politically any perfect answers. I'm just letting you/them know that I will advocate for more research and/or studies or whatever we need, to improve upon things overall.

 

Throughout this thread I and others have posted links and explained how straw purchases are responsible for a thriving black market of guns used. Do some research on that. Also, registration gives the police a leg up on tracing weapons used in crimes across the country, not to mention a help in keeping weapons out of the hands of the emotionally/mentally disturbed.

 

So the ASSUMPTION is that if your psychologist is a liberal, then he is automatically biased in his therapy, and thereby ANY conclusions they draw regarding ANY patient with ANY problem/symptom is to promote the "liberal agenda" (whatever conservatives deem that is). Interesting premise....so if we apply this mindset generally, then if your shrink hates exercise and vegetables, then a compulsive eaters are screwed. And if you are a conservative, then how you treat your patient is wholly based on your effort to stop the liberal agenda from persecuting conservatives, and therefore gear the therapy and all subsequent papers as such

Bottom line: unless you get a group of shrinks to state in no uncertain terms that their political affiliations guide their therapy, all you've got is a lot of supposition and conjecture. And Mr. Britt is NOT saying that. Nice try though.

 

What you believe and what is actually stated are two different things. To recap, the quote from your source: "The first thing to go would be the 1986 federal ban on the manufacture of machine guns for sale to ordinary citizens. We don't ban cars like Porsches just because they are high-powered and can drive much faster than the speed limit. Even though it's a lot easier to go 50 miles per hour over the highway speed limit in a Porsche than in a Hyundai, we let people own any car they want, no matter what its potential for abuse.

THAT, my friend, is pure supposition and conjecture, as NOWHERE in any gun law proposal suggests or requires this. Period. As I point out, it's foolishness....and that is the basis for his entire screed.

And as I have posted on this thread at least twice links regarding straw purchases, I suggest you either scan my posts or do the research yourself, as I am sick and tired of doing the homework for others.

 

Sorry to inform you that just because YOU PERSONALLY want to downplay or ignore parts of the 2nd Amendment in order to bolster your revision doesn't mean it passes the muster in reality. I strongly urge you to READ the history of the Militia Acts in America. Remember, it was then (as it is now) the GOVERNMENT BY, OF AND FOR THE PEOPLE who determined what and how a militia is to be handled. All this has been covered in this thread previously.

 

No matter how many times the NRA pundits and sycophants repeat this screed, reality and proper analysis/research will always be their undoing. Read and learn:


The Myth of Nazi Gun Control
http://www.guncite.com/gun_control_gcnazimyth.html

http://www.salon.com/2013/01/11/stop_talking_about_hitler/

 

At the time of the writing of the Second Amendment,
a militia was called upon in times of local emergency.
A militia person was a gun owner who brought their gun to the militia's formation.

"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State,
the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."​

That does NOT mean a citizens guns are locked up by a Militia armory between crisis, does it.

What "Militia Acts" do you refer?
However, I will not accept lawyerfied interpretations of the second written well after its' adoption.
Give me a that ole time interpretation of a militia, etc.


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Sorry, but States interact with each other....and federal law is there. Check into how straw man purchases affect crime in various states.

 

Why not gun license and registration? Because none of congress' enumerated powers enable congress to enact legislation requiring gun licenses and registration.

(PS - If you disagree, please cite the relevant power.)

 

Honore said the string of recent mass gun murders — culminating with the tragic movie theater shooting in Lafayette Thursday in which two victims died — should provide a wake up call.


"It breaks my heart to see that happen in my home state or anywhere in America," he said. "We've got a problem in this country, and at some point the politicians have to get down into the community and find some answers to this problem."

Honore had considered running for governor this fall but decided against making the race earlier this summer.

The retired army general, best known for his role leading the Hurricane Katrina recovery in New Orleans, said during his time in the military soldiers "were required to clear their weapons and turn them in as soon as they came in from the field."

"The best place for weapons when you're not in the field is to be locked up in the garrison," Honore' said. "Our biggest problem before Desert Storm was (soldiers) accidentally firing their weapons, and they're trained.

"I've been around guns all my life, but when I was growing up they were locked in the cabinet unless you needed them for hunting."

Honore also said he disagrees with those advocating for military men and women at recruitment offices to be armed. Some armed civilians have taken it upon themselves to stand guard at recruitment locations since the mass shooting at a Tennessee office this summer.

One such civilian accidentally fired a round at an Ohio recruitment office last week. Nobody was injured.

"I don't think it's a good idea to arm military at the recruitment offices or to have civilians there with guns," Honore said. "That's the job of law enforcement. On our bases, yes, we guard our gates and our bases, but not at the recruitment offices."

Honore said he doesn't know what steps government should take tighten controls on carrying guns — "I'm not smart enough for that," he said — but he said mass shootings "are scarring our country."

"I've lived in Europe and Korea and all over the world," Honore' said. "They don't have the same level of gun violence in the United Kingdom or Germany or Italy or the same affection for guns other than for hunting."

Honore, a Point Coupee Parish native who lives in Baton Rouge, retired from the army in 2008 after 37 years. He leads his own consulting and public speaking company and has been an advocate for the environment.

"We've got to rethink and re-set our thoughts about guns," he said. "We have to focus less on ideology and more on practicality."

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2015/07/27/honore-americas-denial-gun-culture/30764255/

 

And this is supposed to mean exactly what?

 

just what it says

 

Which of congress' enumerated powers would enable it to enact legislation that prevents the people of the states from carrying arms all the time anywhere or anyplace they want? Can you please cite the language?

 

What? Liberal propaganda? It's not exactly like it's Moses coming down from the mount. That is unless Moses benefited from affirmative action.

 

you can't seem to get anything right, honoré is a retired general and a republican

 

He, like you, seems to be suggesting that congress enact an unconstitutional law.

 

I could care less if he was an ex pharaoh and a Martian.

 

background checks and licensing laws aren't unconstitutional

how much less could you care?

 

You mean if both he and you fell off the face of the earth?

 

Then you should have no trouble citing the language in the constitution that empowers congress to enact such legislation.

 

"well regulated"

i mean, if you really understood the meaning of the words you wrote

 

Oh the irony here.

 

remember, a 'lie' to the left is any opinion that has not been washed for purity through the DNC or their approved media...all else is 'lies'

 

Canada's was a fraction of ours before the registry...

 

That is not one of congress' enumerated powers. Would you like to try again?