Why Read Novels

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  1. perotista

    perotista Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I remember Jim Hutton in the Green Berets with John Wayne. The scrounger. Speaking of movies like Sherlock Holmes, I have almost all the old Charlie Chan movies on DVD. I was always a fan of Charlie Chan. Then some don't know one of Boris Karloff roles was as Mr. Wong, another Chinese detective movie. Also Mr. Moto, a Japanese Detective with Peter Lorrie.

    I have a lot of them on DVD. I have always been a old movie fan when emphisis was on acting and plots instead of special effects. The same for the old horror and sci-fi movies. Some of the old were were crazy and dumb, especially a lot of the 1950's movies where radiation caused giant spiders, rabbits, grasshoppers, ants etc. But I still enjoy them.
     
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    "Classified: Baby Goods. For sale, baby shoes, never worn"

    An urban legend has it Ernest Hemingway wrote this on a bet he could write a novel consisting of 10 words or less. While the story may be fiction, Hemingway's economy of prose appealed to me in my youth. I read everything I could find by this guy. I hope he is not lost to our current generation raised in the digital age.

    If you only read one of his novels, read "The Sun Also Rises." You won't regret it.
     
  3. Foolardi

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    Robert Osbourne at TCM { Turner Classic Movies } ran a night of Charlie Chan
    movies the other night { Saturday or Friday ? } and explained how the studio
    moguls dropped the original Charlie Chan series due to overexposure.
    However the series found a small Hollywood Producer and system who kept it
    going.Because there was a couple Charlie Chan actors.Peter Lorre being Mr. Moto.
    Does that make you hoppy ... grasshopper.
     
  4. perotista

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    Yep. For me, to this day I really haven't found any series or movies that would replace Sherlock Holmes, Rathbone and Brett and Charlie Chan. Perhaps I am stuck in my second childhood with these old flicks. It is like sci-fi, I loved the original Star Trek of the 1960's but really never cared for any of the future series or spin offs.

    Now if you get into horror films, for me there is nothing better than the old Roger Corman B horror flicks or those produced by Hammer. Strange we have gotten completely off the books and novels.
     
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    Foolardi Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Roger Corman is THE Nicest and most prolific Producer/Director of small
    budget releases in Hollywood.He paved a path for many big name actors.
    Not just Jack Nicholson but also Dennis Hopper,to name just 2.
    Hammer in it's day { the 70's } was THE Premier British studio for cutting edge
    horror.I have seen all The Hammer films.
    As far as Books,I went to Barnes & Noble today { I go at least once a week } to
    check on the book I ordered.It wasn't in.I saw a shelf full of The new Book by
    Harper Lee.I forgot all about it.I read a few months ago in Spring how the aged
    Lee { a Female with Only One novel to her credit } had somehow managed to recover her
    lost follow-up manuscript/notes to - To Kill a Mockingbird -. It was somewhere beneath
    a stack of old stuff in an attic.It was recoverable and very precious.I think maybe she
    had forgot all about writing a follow-up manuscript to - Mockingbird -.
    So I bought the new book. It's Titled :
    - Go Set a Watchman - - at 278 pages { hardcover }.
     
  6. Mr_Truth

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    your profile indicates you are Australian - strangely you write like a Yank

    here in the USA every state had a library system for the blind and physically handicapped that can get you recorded books - check to see if you have one that can get you that type of help
     
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    I write like an Englishman.
     
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    must be the meds ;)


    well, whatever the case - get well & see if you can get recorded books
     
  9. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    Oh hell, you can have that happen just by becoming interested in politics
     
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    Naw....if you did it would be incomprehensible! LOL!!

    Actually as far as speaking English....when I first when to the U.K. I could barely understand a damn thing some Brits were saying to me as they absolutely trash the English language when they spoke.

    But as time has passed....the Brits. now seem to talk to a much greater extent in an American English way.

    It still is different but nowhere near as different and in many ways as extremely difficult as it once was to understand them.

    AboveAlpha
     
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    Foolardi Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Which does not beg the question ... how does an Englishman write.
    It'd be like asserting how an Englishman sings.
    I'd say ... listen to Joe Cocker and his Mad Dogs.
     
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    I've read "A Moveable Feast" "Old Man and the Sea" "To Have and Have Not" and "The Short Happy Life of Francis Macomber".

    I sort of gave up on him after that. He's very, VERY good,(my god he's ERNEST HEMINGWAY, after all) but I prefer a stylist and Hemingway is rather emphatically not, unless you call minimalism a style

    He holds the distinction of being the highest paid author by word ever. He got a million dollars for a one page article on bullfighting he wrote for Sports Illustrated, which worked out to $20,000 a word.
     
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    I appreciate your feedback and opinion, I thought my comment would fade away. It is nice to know the younger generation has at least heard of Hemingway. With so many different ways in which to entertain ourselves in our free time, my hope remains that his works remain relevant.
     
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    I'd like to challenge that { A Moveable Feast }.What did Ernest Hemingway say about the editor
    Ford Maddox Ford.There was something about Maddox Ford that literally
    disgusted Ernest no end.What was it. ?
     
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    Hemingway was more on the straight forward side.His volumn of short
    stories are proof.He was a simple writer who didn't use big words or long
    drawn-out sentences.In this he was quite boring but nonetheless precise and
    To The Point.Almost the opposite of someone like an Edgar Allen Poe.
    Hemingway Is and Was Overrated.I think it had more to do with his
    associations { Lost Generation } and also his manly activities like Big Game
    hunting, Marlin Fishing and record setting drinking contests { Daiquris }.
     
  17. Mr_Truth

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    Not so ~ very popular unto this day.

    I enjoyed many of his works, especially The Old Man and the Sea.
     
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    That was a very short novel.And the movie suffered because it could not
    be stretched out.There wasn't enough to the novel to make for a full length
    movie.But yes, - The Old Man and The Sea - was classic Hemingway and
    I liked very much.But it was not long enough.I think there was only 2
    characters in the entire little piece.{ The Protagonist and the little beach boy }.
    - Animal Farm - is a great piece of fiction also ... but short.
     
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    There was also "eshark" who displayed the same determination to live as did Santiago, El Viejo. And then there was the sea which had been alluded to as a living thing ~ beautiful but frightfully dangerous. The book is filled with much symbolism - its economy is part of its appeal.
     
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    I wish someone would make a movie about The real Ernest Hemingway
    and his lifestyle.The way he loved to go to the Islands and drink Daiquri
    in his nice somewhat compact Yacht.His love of Cats and getting up early
    in the morning to do his writing.The fact that he didn't like his Mother.
    Churchill also had a dislike towards his Mother { she was a flirt }.
    There's a nice movie - Islands in the Stream - { 1977 } where George C. Scott plays
    a Hemingwayesque character.The Movie has shades of - To Have and Have Not - { 1944 }
    with nice characterization of the prototypical " rummy ". We all know the type.The
    drunkard lush whose constantly harping on to himself about where or how to avoid his next drink.
    I wonder if Papa Hemingway had that problem.
     
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    I thought there had been a couple of Hemingway bios.

    His mother forced him to dress like a girl until he was about 8 or 9 and that made him resent her flawed mentality. One of those bios should give more details to explain why he behaved the way he did as an adult.
     
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    What are you challenging? That I read it? OK I got tired and never did finish the last two chapters, what is this , a Quiz?. Now I'm curious, what DID he say about Ford?
     
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    I typically read historical biographies and accounts of various events. But if it's a novel, I usually read fact-based fiction---something that could happen.

    Currently, I'm reading "One Year After" a follow-up of "One Second After."

    Both my brothers read a good bit of Sci-Fi books----but I read to entertain and inform.
     
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    I read the explanation but it's been years.Maybe I can find the book I read it from.
    My question to Hemingway would be ... Why Cats.And not Dogs.
    Personally I'm both a Cat and Dog lover.
    From what I remember I think Ernest didn't like how his Mom decided for him
    how his summers would be spent.I think they were spent secluded on this
    small isle where he couldn't do much of anything but chores and such.
    Gary Crosby had the same experience with Bing.he was forced as a
    Teenager to spend his summers out on a Cattle Ranch where he was just
    like the other Cowboys.Work from sunup to sundown.Sleep under the stars
    most nights.Eat beans and drink cowboy coffee.No showers er nuthin'.
    No soda pop or candy or snacks.Just Cattle rustler grub.
    Plus Bing beat Gary.Practically as soon as Bing got home he's tell Gary
    Up to your room and then " Assume the Position ".
    The Book ... - Going My Own Way - by Gary Crosby is a very good read.
    Gary was a Boozer.Practically as soon as he left high school.
     
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    ... and wear girls dresses
     

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