Why the Right Wing Rejects Science

Uh, that point was made hundreds and hundreds of years ago......

 

So?

 

If life starts at conception then the parents must've been dead......

 

Human life exists prior to conception silly. Sperm is human life, as are your parents. A person does not magically pop into existence at conception. Conception itself is not an instantaneous process. There is no "moment" of conception.

If you would have read the info given you from the dev Bio textbook detailing the 5 main scientific perspectives on "when human life begins" you would know this.

And last. Just because "human life" exists - does not mean "a human/child/baby" exists.

 

LOL - A sperm is also human life. So is every other cell in your body.

A heart cell is not a human - nor is it a human heart. It is a single human cell.
A zygote is a single human cell. Just because a single human cell has been created, does not make that cell a human.

 

There is no way a human can be created without a human creating a sperm.
A fertilized egg has the potential to create a human being. This is the technically correct science.

You are the one that has been using linguistic sleight of hand. The idea that the creation of a human is not a biological process is simply false.

Since the zygote is a single human cell. This cell will never be a human. The cell ceases to exist a few hours after it is created.

I want to try to move on to see what comes next so I am going to try and make sense out of your claim.

I suppose one could claim that the DNA is a potential human. It is the DNA that is controlling the process of human creation.
The DNA has the blueprint for the human and all that information that will - the charactristics- traits and so on- will be that human.

Does this work for you ? Your claim is then "The DNA is a potential human" This would be more in keeping with the scientific perspective that puts the beginning at conception (Genetic Perspective).

 

That's a political question, not a scientific one. And the fact that you can't tell the difference makes the point.

 

The fact that you can't answer that question makes my point

 

Your question is a POLITICAL question. It doesn't have anything to do with human life.

But I'll be glad to answer your question in the abortion section, but you'll be disappointed, I guarantee it!

 

A new scientific truth does not triumph by convincing
its opponents and making them see the light, but rather
because its opponents eventually die, and a new generation
grows up that is familiar with it." - Max Planck

 

When it doesn't there is

If that is an important topic then start a new thread.

 

Please explain that to the other posters who don't get it.

 

Come'on man ??

 

Come'on man. Falsify that conception results in human life.

 

A sperm is a specialized human cell.

What is unique about a fertilized ovum ??

 

So you can't answer the question:


""..do you think that ANY argument about when life starts will change women's need to have an abortion ???

 

You posted : ""Abortion terminates life - that is my point.""

I responded: Uh, that point was made hundreds and hundreds of years ago......

So why are you repeating it as if you just discovered it or no one else knows what abortion does?

 

If life starts at conception then the parents must've been dead......well, life either starts at conception as you claim with dead parents or there is life before conception.



And , I do NOT care... abortion is legal as it should be no matter when "life" begins

 

I did not claim that conception could not result in human life Mr. Strawman fallacy.

Second - you moved the goalposts --- another fallacy. Your claim is that it was the beginning

Further.... it is up to prove your claim true. Just because someone can not prove that a moon around Pluto is not made of green cheese ... does not make it so. Fallacy number three (3)

What I did show was was that your claim "conception is the beginning of human life" was sketchy by showing that this is not the beginning of the process of creating a human - The sperm obviously exists before conception.

Rather than address this you ran to the playground crying (no no no) and spouted a bunch of fallacy prior to sticking head deep in the sandbox of denial.

 

A Zygote is also a specialized human cell. Did you have a point ?

What does uniqueness have to do with anything ?

Still waiting for you to back up your claim (with something other than logical fallacy)
Did you intend on doing this any time soon ?

 

And abortion is the willful termination of a human life. Please advise the other posters of this fact.

 

And human life begins with a fertilized ovum. That is a fact and not a fallacy which cannot be falsified. There it is - claim and back up.

 

Funny stuff that ^^. Conception is the beginning of human life is true and cannot be falsified. Claim proven.

Ask Foxhastings to explain this to you.

 

Why do you insist that no one but you knows what abortion does or is ? That's just weird...

 

Others participating in this discussion do not understand that abortion terminates a human life.