Why would anyone vote for Trump on 2024?

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  1. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    sure

    Trump was on the verge of a recession in 2019... BEFORE COVID

    the fed doesn't do this during a great economy... that the economy was great pre-covid is one of the biggest lies the Republicans ever told.


    "Fed Ups Its Wall Street Bailout to $690 Billion a Week as Media Snoozes" Oct 2019


    https://wallstreetonparade.com/2019...ilout-to-690-billion-a-week-as-media-snoozes/

    and

    "The Federal Reserve Has Already Pumped $9-Trillion into Wall Street in the Past Six Months, and Now Is Offering Banks Another $1.5-Trillion" March 2020


    https://needtoknow.news/2020/03/the...d-now-is-offering-banks-another-1-5-trillion/
     
  2. Natty Bumpo

    Natty Bumpo Well-Known Member

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    Some of his worshipers are "bad people" if one is critical of white supremacists such as those who featured among his goons who attempted to subvert American democracy by attacking outnumbered police on January 6, 2021. Most are just dupes to whom he lies.
     
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    Natty Bumpo Well-Known Member

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    Which of Trump's campaign promises in 2016 are your favorites?

    Are building his big, beautiful wall, repealing and replacing 'ObamaCare', lowering the deficit, reviving manufacturing, revitalizing the coal industry, and rebuilding the nation's infrastructure at the top of your list?
     
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    Well, he hasn't been found to be so senile that he can't be held accountable for apparent felonies. So there's that.
     
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    So you don’t like government now? I see complete reversal of the view of government when it doesn’t fit your narrative.
     
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    Natty Bumpo Well-Known Member

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    So, you can't contrive any campaign promises by the sexually abusive geezer who gets so confused that he tries to apply his lie for Pelosi to Haley that you like?
     
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    Well, there was stuff like this:
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    I was wealthier and made more money relative to inflation under Trump. No new wars was good. I liked that. He was putting NATO nations on notice that the relative free ride is over (and he's still doing that). He was challenging China for it transgressions rather than letting spy balloons cross CONUS. And the Press, when they weren't lying about Russia Russia Russia, appeared to be doing their jobs as skeptics and watch dogs rather than house trained lap dogs. Good times, good times. And I want them back.
     
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    Under Trump, the tighter border created a labor shortage, and because of that more blacks were entering the workforce.
    That is one reason the progressives hated Trump so much. The dignity and independence of a job and earning one's way cannot be understated.
    Democrats what south Americans entering the US with a work ethic born of desperation. And because they are illegal they are easy to intimidate and exploit.
     
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    No doubt our child sniffer in chief loves those trafficked kids smuggled over our border. And many love the slave labor. https://www.bitchute.com/video/eT3S_AfBj9c/
     
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    Natty Bumpo Well-Known Member

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    Trump's praising Putin as a savvy genius for his intent to invade Ukraine, and his encouraging the war criminal to attack NATO members is repugnant to patriotic Americans.

    The unemployment rate has plummeted and remained low. It had risen to 6.7% under the previous regime, and has fallen and stayed around 3.7%, and wages have risen as well. Global inflation continues to fall in the U.S.

    I reference the empirical data rather than personal anecdotes.

    The U.S. economy is thriving again, and China's is collapsing.





    The good news for Trump is that he can recycle most of his 2016 unfulfilled promises in 2024 - if he ignore's Biden's rebuilding the nation's infrastructure.
     
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    Those personal anecdotes are why Biden will lose 2024 if he doesn't get 25th as he should.
     
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    Natty Bumpo Well-Known Member

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    I understand that you need to whine about the President because you don't want to deal with all Trump's unfulfilled campaign promises.

    Just enjoy the nation's thriving economy.
     
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    You mean like that he wasn't going to shut down the country, he was going to shut down the virus? Brandon did the opposite of his promise and we're still dealing with the fallout.
    ITMT the material promise of Trump was that we'd be winning so much we would get tired of it. Up to Covid? Promises made and kept.
     
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    Now there you go, it shows how you don't understand at all and this is why Trump is going to win, you dismiss his voters as "white supremacists" and "dupes" who "attempted to subvert American democracy". Your contempt and hysteria is why people vote for Trump.
     
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    I acknowledge that, while the aged, sexual abuser facing 91 felony counts recommended by juries that reviewed the substantive evidence and corroborative sworn testimony of dozens of Republicans, 2020's Loser did finally stop spouting his crackpot nonsense and concede to the scientific reality:

     
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    Except for trying to calm the panic that had people hoarding toilet paper for some reason, I hold him just as accountable for the Covid response hoax as the next guy.

    But be careful out there. Global warming will cause entire nations to go underwater by 2007.
     
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    Pretty simple, really.

    His Supreme Court stands on the brink of overturning Chevron. That dwarfs all the other good stuff he did and absolutely cannot be lied out of existence by liberals.

    Gearing up for the pathetic wailing of liberals. This will be better than Dobbs.
     
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    Which science triggers your most adamant denial? Climatology? Epidemiology? Embryology? Neurobiology? Lepidoptery?
     
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    Ideological fanaticism does not account for all the conservative Republicans, high-ranking individuals who served in the sexual abuser's regime who have denounced him, nor those who provided corroborative sworn testimony against him after he incited his goons, via his lies regarding the election, to attack outnumbered police defending democracy as he pleasured himself for hours watching.

    The personal liberty abrogated by the activist Supreme Court is being reclaimed by the People in red state after red state.
     
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    This. This is the only reason I think Trump will win. If the Dems ran pretty muhc anybody else except for Biden and Kamala, I think Trump would lose. But Biden's ego is too big to realize it.
     
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    Why would anyone vote for Trump on 2024?

    A combination of ignorance, stupidity, and blind hatred.
     
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    Can you imagine an alternate universe in which the best and brightest are encouraged to run for President and one of them ends up leading the country, instead of one these two?
     
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    Like I said, it's impossible to for progressives to lie their way out of this one. No matter how you want to continue to torture the English language.

    Good luck with that.
     
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    Depends upon who is doing the most lying when.

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    Why does anyone vote the way they do to include those voting for Trump? History shows that on average 94% of Republicans and 93% of Democrats vote for their party’s candidates regardless of who they are. Those who are members, affiliate with or identify with either major party always vote the letter behind the name, not the candidates. I suppose the old adage here is my party’s worst candidate is always better than your party’s best candidate.


    This being said, I can’t understand the fascination republicans have with Trump. He has no political ideology or philosophy of his own. The seven-time party switcher has always adopted the political philosophy of the party he belonged to at the time. Now independents are more apt to vote the candidates. Although those independents who lean toward one party or the other will most likely vote for the party’s candidates of the party they lean towards. Then you have pure or true independents with no leans, swing voters is a name that describes them the best. More than independents. They’re all over the place, they swing wildly from one party to the other from election to election. They’ll vote candidates based on whether they like them or not, their perceptions of the candidates, usually ending up voting for the more charismatic candidate. These swing voters don’t get into issues much unless an issue affects them personally. The personality of the candidates also plays a big part in how these swing voters vote.


    2024, most swing voters, pure or true independents with no leans, they dislike Trump, don’t want him to regain the white house. But they also don’t want Biden reelected. For different reasons for sure. It’s these swing voters that decide most elections. Nationally anyway. These swing voters are turned off by both major party candidates today. They tend to answer pollsters’ question of who they’ll vote for with other or third-party candidates, will not vote, stay home or undecided if the rematch occurs.


    How important are these swing voters? Bush won them twice, Obama twice, in 2016 Trump won them and the presidency. In 2024, Biden won them and the presidency. Today, most swing voters are stating they’ll vote third party or stay home and not vote at all since they disliked both major party candidates and don’t want either one to become the next president. Again, for entirely different reasons.
     

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