Why would anyone vote for Trump on 2024?

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  1. Bowerbird

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    Why do you think he has to keep taking cognitive tests?
     
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    Which is why I advocate learning how to critique research
     
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    So.. there weren't no new wars, we didn't defeat ISIS, gas prices weren't lower, the border more secure, or historically lowest unemployment numbers? Yeah.. I'd be carefull about pointing that conman finger, you might be facing a mirror, and we've never had anything but conmen in the professional politician class.. so maybe you just don't have a much of a refernce point.
     
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    Oh dear. I'm not running. LOL

    I support Haley, just FYI.
     
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    sadly I don't think she will get the nomination.

    Biden or Trump-who do you choose?
     
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    You mean Biden?

    Well, if you like high inflation, record budget deficits, out-of-control immigration, and wars, then yes, it's been "one of the most productive presidencies ever."
     
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    I suppose to those who don't live in the USA and perhaps don't like the USA being the top nation in the world, Biden has been productive
     
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    Haley. I'm not voting for Trump, who it a total idiot, or Biden, who is too old. There are no ifs of buts about Biden's age and he is only getting older. I have maintained that he will drop out of the race, and I still believe it, and hopefully Manchin will take his place.

    Deficit records were broken in 2020, and its not even close. We are still paying the price for it. Inflation peaked some time ago, and by the inauguration of next president its unlikely to be an issue.
     
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    well I will vote for whomever I believe will appoint judges and justices most likely to enforce Heller, McDonald, Caetano and Bruen
     
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    I'm voting for whoever will overturn Chevron and Massachusetts.

    Oh, wait. That looks to be Trump.
     
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    Massachusetts? Chevron I am intimately familiar with and yes, it should go the way of Dred Scott and separate but equal
     
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    2007s Massachusetts v. EPA which took Chevron and reversed the logic.

    As in, "in Chevron we decided to defer to agency's opinions when the Congressional authorization is not clear" and made it into "you, EPA, can now decide for yourself whether to regulate CO2. And if you don't decide to do that, you'll have to explain exactly why you can't to the court."

    The Bush Administration couldn't find a good answer for the Court and punted it to the next Administration, which ended up being Obama who was all over it like a dog humping a football, California wrote the Endangerment finding, and now Biden's working to ban internal combustion engines in new vehicles by 2035. Which, in a practical technical sense, has "cluster f**k" written all over it.

    I've been personally involved in this one since 2007. If Loper wins, it's Scotch O'Clock and calling in sick to work the next day.
     
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    Indeed
     
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    Any idea what the debt is today? Or how about the budget deficit. According to CBO Biden's total deficit so far - just a tad over three years into his term is MORE than Trump ran up in his entire four years - including the money cannons fired in 2020 to battle COVID. Trump had one trillion dollar deficit - Joe's almost guaranteed a four for four term. Trump's inflation for for years averaged less than three percent. It will be a minor miracle if Joe finishes with less than 20% for HIS
    Bidenomics miracle.
     
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    Context is not a Democrats strong suit.
     
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    I can't decide whether the crap the pump out is because they don't know any better or if they're totally immoral zealots playing modern-day Goebbels ("if you tell a lie often enough people will believe it is true")
     
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    It seems to me that it's some kind of mass messaging system. They're often repeating the same verbiage verbatim.
     
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    Tribalism, racism, ignorance, hatred, fear, spite, greed, cruelty...all these things are common to those who vote for Trump.
     
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    I've noticed that as well. Some of them are almost verbatim, some actually make a few changes but the meaning is almost a cliched slogan
     
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    Keep telling yourself that BS while you watch your nation betrayed and invaded and turned into a 3rd world impoverished authoritarian hell-scape with death camps, gulags and killing fields.
    Sometimes I'm black pilled. Hard times make strong men, strong men make good times. Good times makes weak men who make har times. With senile Biden in charge, we're in the weak men making hard times phase of things and there's likely nothing to be done about it.
     
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    Somewhat ironically - your post clearly defines you possess some, if not all of those traits, yourself.
     
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    years ago, the late great David Broder, a man I was lucky to meet several times since his son was a suite mate of mine in college-noted that for decades, the American left was hoping to turn the USA into another version of the USSR. when the USSR fell apart, that goal changed to trying to balkanize the USA into warring special interest groups, divided by ethnicity and gender. Biden has proven that great pundit correct. The Biden regime is trying to divide America along racial and gender (whether actual or assumed) lines. His (or I should say his handlers) picks for VP and Supreme Court justice are proof of that. Hatred LOL, the attack on "MAGAS" and their surrogate-white middle class Christian Males (AKA "deplorables") is obvious as is the hatred of traditional American values and freedoms. greed? it's what's for dinner in many Democrat Diners. class envy is rampant as is pandering to that jealousy
     
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    If she got the nomination, would you vote for her in the general election?
     
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    Haley? Of course. What else do you think I mean by saying I support her? Plan B is to count on Biden drops out and someone like Manchin is nominated.

    Either option would ensure that neither Trump or Biden wins
     
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    The fact people literally believe Biden 'started' two wars shows how successful Trump has been in the conditioning of his supporters. And if US did start those wars, then it would be on both parties in Congress who are the only ones that have the power to make a declaration of war (which I have yet seen).
     
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