Why would you Oppose a wall on our Border? Lets find out.

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  1. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    if you claim there is a report, as a rebuttal to him, you kinda have the burden of proof.

    im on your side, btw
     
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    Did Trump “drain the Mexican budget and plans on using it to build the wall”? How much money did Trump drain??? <sarcasm off>
    What Obama wall are you talking about?
     
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    If you are considered in the upper crust your taxes do go for border security.

    If you are in the 47 percent, more likely to use drugs or even employ one from south of our border, your adding to the problem and not solving it.

    Take the brown woman who shows up weekly here at this building to handle janitorial work. She told me the part of Mexico she came from. She said the Pueblo state. Now she seems very nice. but the Chinese owner of this building hiring her is rich. What do you feel should be done to this man who is in a sanctuary state that refuses to go after such types? If one calls the cops, they are told not to arrest illegals.
     
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    The article I posted a link to claimed there is a report. I have no obligation to also find a link to the report the article I posted a link to references
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    why do you keep race baiting?

    kinda destroys your argument by association
     
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    What in God’s name does any of your rant have to do with the post you replied to. Focus old man...focus
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Oh you want the photo? Sure I will show it again.

    As to figures from Mexico, would you know if they are accurate?

    https://psmag.com/news/did-democrats-support-border-barriers-before-trump-took-office

    Clearly Obama used this as a photo op.

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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    seems he'd rather rant about "brown people" than actually discuss the subject
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It is not race baiting. But notice you refuse to address the topic and engage in name calling.
     
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    It is not about me. But thanks for thinking of me. But trust me, it is about the fence built by Obama and his photo ops that I show you.
     
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    sure it.

    constantly talking about "brown women" and "brown children" is silly & pathetic race baiting.

    you're losing the argument bro, quit while behind
     
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    So nothing backing up your claim about Trump draining money from Mexico. Got it

    And no, I wouldn’t have supported Obama’s wall either. Then again I didn’t support much Obama did. So there’s that.
     
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    Well, I have presented actual photo proof of actual Government policy. We had one poster allude to a 24 page report that he refused to post then he blamed me for not locating his own report.
    I presented FACTs and some of you present words. Some claim many trucks penetrate the border and that to me seems pretty lousy since Obama had 8 years to solve it. And he bragged he constructed 700 miles. But he never called it the Bush wall. He took full credit for his own acts.
     
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    Obama never bragged about building 700 miles of wall

    fact is most drugs get through the mexico side via trucks at the border crossing
     
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    Take responsibility for your race baiting. I had to be more specific and I often say Mexican but that seems not good enough since many are not Mexicans but are actually brown.

    What race is brown? And why can't you stick to the true argument?
     
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    Prove it. I showed his true photo at his wall.
     
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    im not the one talking about "brown women" and "brown kids".

    that's your race baiting. it kills your argument.
     
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    your photo is fake.

    obama and hillary were never together by a Mexico border fence.

    i looked it up, using a variety of search terms.

    the photo does not exist
     
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    i shall look up past posts to see if you pinned your ears back to challenge the postger who says he used numbers from some mysterious 24 page report.

    And only you think i can't locate proof to back me up. I do not jump through your hoops fast enough to suit you but try to calm your nerves and allow me the opportunity.

    When you do not support the Obama wall, why didn't you support his wall?
     
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    Its not Obama's wall.

    he didn't sign the bill, he didn't build it.

    Bush signed the bill in 2006
     
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    Well then, blame the google site.

    I will do my best to show you Obama did brag about his wall.

    This is by Reuters. I trust Reuters far more than ABC, NBC, etc.


    During their time in the Senate, Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama voted in favor of a physical border barrier. And just five years ago, all Senate Democrats, including Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer and Dianne Feinstein, voted in favor of 700 miles of border fencing. (AP/Reuters)
     
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    A bill voted for by Obama. Why is border security something you want to distance Obama from while the claims such as Bush created the 09 Budget when it was Obama is fought by you?

    Obama and Bush agreed once Obama was elected in 08 that Obama would handle the 09 Budget. Now when Obama constructs the wall he voted for, you want to assign it to Bush.
     
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    If they aren't apprehended, how can we know they're carrying drugs?
    If we don't know what or how much they're carrying, we can't say the wall is a solution, can we?
    If the mules know just about every move to intercept them, it sounds like you got a mole.
     
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