Why would you vote for Donald Trump, knowing this?

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  1. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    don't forget what he said about the little girl ridding up the escalator


    “I’ve known Jeff for fifteen years. Terrific guy. He’s a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side.” - Donald Trump, 2002
     
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    you mean not wanting to let in legions of illegals who rape and kill Americans such as that young nursing student? Like trying to prevent the massive influx of fentanyl which kills more people in a month than all those scary firearms (that you want to ban) do in years? what exactly are his "inhumane" policies? sounds like hyperbole to me
     
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    this propaganda is based on the INCORRECT belief that policy results are instantaneous
     
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    you ever really research RFK's position on guns?
     
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    Yes. It appears he's not fond of assault rifles, but also recognizes that banning them is not constitutional. The former does not make us friends, but the latter does make us allies.
     
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    Penetrating her with his fingers IS rape. It's unbelievable that you would support Grandpa Felony Fingers who raped his employee.

    [​IMG]https://lawandcrime.com › high-profile › he-penetrated-me-with-his-fingers-joe-biden-accused-of-sexual-assault
    Tara Reade Accuses Joe Biden of Sexual Assault | Law & Crime
    'Democratic Party presidential candidate Joe Biden has been accused of sexual assault by one of his former Senate staff assistants. According to the alleged victim, Biden forcibly penetrated her against her will with his fingers in Washington, D.C. in 1993. "'

    That's FORCIBLE RAPE.

    [​IMG]https://www.psychforums.com › rape-sexual-assault › topic155917.html
    Is fingering a girl considered rape/sexual assault?
    'Is fingering a girl considered rape/sexual assault? According to the updated F.B.I. definition it is rape (assuming that the fingering is penetrative, which I suspect it is likely to be, even if by mm s).'
     
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    Because they wish they could be his "assistant" yhe next time he does it.
     
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    Because even though my mechanic is a horrible person, he's still the least worse choice of the options given to make my Camaro great again.
     
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    People often use the margin of error like it is some accurate number. It isn't.
     
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    kriman Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Do you think they are any more humane now? Really???
    Inflation is real. Wages have not kept up with inflation. People on the lower end are hurting. In addition, unemployment was lower under Trump.
    Mainly because it allows up to 5000 a day before action is required and ties to Ukraine and Israel. 1000 a day was considered excessive by Obama.

    We are now involved in two wars. We have huge numbers of single military aged Chinese and other nationalities who hate us coming cross our border. We are in danger because of Biden's incompetance.
     
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    Why would anyone vote for Trump? If you’re a republican that’s what you do, vote for your party’s candidate just like if you’re a democrat you’ll vote for your party’s candidate, Biden. Recent history shows 94% of the time those who call themselves republicans and democrats will vote for their party’s candidate regardless of who their candidate is. Call it party loyalty or being against the other major party for a variety of reasons. Whether the candidates chosen by either major party is good, bad or indifferent, that candidate is your party’s candidate, not the other party’s, that’s all that matters.


    Independents in general are a different. They vote the candidates, not the party. Which makes sense, they wouldn’t be independents if they voted political party. Trump, most independents don’t like him as a person, an individual or as a man. But they do think they were better off; their living standards were higher under Trump. They think they are worse off today under Biden than they were under Trump. They give Trump a better rating on his presidency looking back vs. Biden’s today. On the economy, on rising prices, a bunch more. Folks just think they were better off under Trump than Biden. The below article/poll shows and explains all of this.


    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/poll-trump-leads-biden-economy/


    The bottom line is most Americans don’t want Trump to regain the white house. Most Americans don’t want Biden reelected. 62% of all Americans want another choice other than Biden and Trump. But the two major parties basically told most Americans to stick it where the sun don’t shine. Who win’s this election between the disliked and unwanted? The candidate that is the least disliked, that is the least unwanted as both are disliked and unwanted by most Americans. Whoever wins, the winner will still be disliked and unwanted occupant of the white house by most Americans.


    Why vote for Trump? He isn’t Biden. Why vote for Biden, he isn’t Trump. This sums up this election nicely. Why vote third party or stay home, because the third-party candidate isn’t Biden or Trump. Staying home, not voting, because one doesn’t want neither one to become president. Both are disliked and unwanted.
     
  12. HockeyDad

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    Gee, Martin Luther King Jr stood by and encouraged a straight up rape.... should we cancel MLK day? Should we reverse everything he championed for because he was a scumbag?

    https://theconversation.com/im-an-m...be-able-to-view-king-in-the-same-light-118015

    What a Presidential candidate does in his personal life does not affect me. Their policies do. Joe Biden's policies have damaged me far more than Trump's did. It really is as simple as that. This is the problem with progressives on this forum. They make post after post attacking Trump the person. Millions of words about Trump man bad. They NEVER make posts attacking Trump's policy. Hell I have made more posts critical of Trumps policies than any progressive on this forum. How about attacking Trumps policies for a change? Do you even know what they are? I will give you a few to start with...
    1. Tariffs on China (I support)
    2. Peace treaty in Ukraine (I support)
    3. Deportation of illegals (I support)
    4. More money for the wall (I support)
     
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    And more than half of them fake. And 90% of the **** said on Howard Stern by men is little more than locker room braggadocio wholly unconnected to the truth. Yet the only thing you believe is the crap that is least likely to be true. And no one ever controlled the border is of course balderdash. The Last month under Trump 61k last december under biden they averaged more than that a week.
     
  14. Pro_Line_FL

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    He is a pervert, and this story, and ***** grabbing was known already in 2016, and they voted for him anyway, - even evangelicals.
     
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    Why do you keep starting these threads, when people have already given you answers that you then don't acknowledge?

    People vote for Trump for many reasons, many of them having nothing whatsoever to do with his personal life long before becoming president.

    He has maintained an image (true or not) or being a political outsider more likely to "tell it like it is", not controlled by the deep state, etc. That is a huge factor in stark contrast to Biden (and Hillary). People got so sick of establishment hacks and polished politicians that Trump and Bernie became serious candidates in 2016, and Trump has ridden that wave until even now, with all the charges against him, which many see as trumped up (pun intended).

    Another massive factor is Biden. Trump has low approval ratings, but Biden has worse. If you actually hate Trump and fear his gaining a second term, you should probably be doing whatever you can to get the Democrats to run somebody other than Biden.
     
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    Also, another major factor helping Trump is the dramatic partisanship in the US. Do you realize that you are contributing to that with this thread? Many people on the right get motivated by this to want to extend a middle finger to the left, and Trump is ideal for that.
     
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    But what actually will sink Biden in the end isn't hatred from the right, but concern from the left over his declining mental capacity, and outrage from the left over his support for the war in Gaza. Sadly for him there isn't much he can do about either. On Gaza, he would lose massive support from the Israel supporters if he went the other way. It's a no win situation politically for him.
     
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    Congratulations. You have hit your one millionth anti-Trump thread. Who would vote for a guy who has destroyed this country? The following poll is from your side, not Fox News:

    https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/rec...e-political-discontent-poll/story?id=96884607

    Also, Trump is ahead in every single swing state and your are sweating your anti-Trump bullets:

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/7-battlegrounds-decide-wins-presidency-100000203.html

    "The seven battlegrounds in aggregate count for 93 electoral college votes this year.

    Trump leads in all seven in current polls."


    And, ever single betting venue has Trump winning, every single one:

    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/elections/betting-odds/2024/president/

    No wonder you made yet another anti-Trump thread!
     
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  19. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    No, you are clueless about Biden's behavior.

    How so?

    You have no evidence to your claim.

    Let me know when you do.
     
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    Your rhetorical question aside, anecdotal evidence is not proof of your premise, which, of course, is false.

    The fact is that undocs, as a group, commit fewer crimes than American naturalized citizens. Therefore, your underlying premise is false. Fine a real argument, please.
    The bulk of fentanyl enters the US via cars and trucks, at border entry points. To handle the volume, and catch the fentanyl carriers, requires more resources than are currently available,, resources allocated in the Republican led Senate Border bill which Speaker Mike Johnson refuses to put to the house floor, even though it would likely pass. Despite this, CBP’s fentanyl seizures have increased more than 800% since fiscal year 2019, and our fiscal year 2023 seizures of fentanyl have already surpassed the fiscal year 2022 seizure total.

    Now, why won't Johnson allow the bill to the floor?

    Because 3 Russian oligarchs with ties to Putin donated to his campaign, and Trump wants to make the border issue a campaign issue, so he told Johnson to shelve the bill.

    https://www.newsweek.com/who-konstantin-nikolaev-money-mike-johnson-1870600
    https://washingtonpress.com/2023/10/30/putin-paid-how-russian-oligarchs-donated-to-mike-johnson/

    so, when the Rubber hits the road, Turtledude, the real problem are Republican Putin Puppets like Johnson and Trump. Repubs don't want to solve the border problem, the just want to bellyache about it as a campaign issue. In fact, no president in history as actually solved the border problem.

    But, that's par for the course, when it comes to the criminal history of the Republican WH administrations, who are, as a practical matter, a runaway criminal organization. The hard facts prove this point. Now they are projecting when they accuse Biden, for which zero evidence has been produced to date, but the hard facts are known, and they are thus:

    indictments2.jpg

     
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    No, the data for the items I presented were culled from the past 70 years.

    Sorry, you are wrong again.
     
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    Except that she tried to defect to Russia and praised Putin on Russian TV so as an accuser, her credibility is shot down the toilet.

    “When I got off the plane in Moscow, for the first time in a very long time I felt safe, and I felt heard and felt respected.” She also mentioned her desire to apply for Russian citizenship while keeping her U.S. citizenship.

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/may/30/tara-reade-defects-russia-biden
    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-65764319


    She's a wacko.

    In the Carrol case, Trump committed the same crime and the jury did not rule it as rape, that is what I'm basing the premise on. All you are doing is proving Trump is a rapist. Thanks for that. But, Tara Reid is wacko and she isn't even suing Biden, she is suing the FBI.

    You forgot to mention that some 25 women have accused Trump of sexual abuse and one, 13 years of age, accused Trump of rape.

    https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/list-trumps-accusers-allegations-sexual-misconduct/story?id=51956410

    So, your fake outrage is noted.
     
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    He's just saying what they're thinking. Sad, but all too true.
     
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    Our next president will be an elderly lame duck pervert. Its not trash talk; its an opinion here in the "opinions" section of the forum. How sad that these are the best 2 we could come up with.
     
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    Please understand that a Republican led, Republican negotiated Senate Border bill is not being allowed to put to a vote on the House Floor because Mike Johnson was told by Trump to shelve it, he wants to make it a campaign issue. That plus the fact that 3 russian Oligarchs, Konstantin Nikolaev, Mikhail Yuriev, Andrey Kunatbaev, donated to Mike Johnson's campaign, and given that the Border Bill included money for Ukraine, he can't upset his Putin tied Russian Puppet masters, now can he.
    The massive inflation was worldwide, and due, ultimately, from the pandemic. The Biden administration has done a marvelous job of taming inflation, which on the path to achieving it's goal of inflation in the traditionally accepted range of 2% or close to it. It's in the 3% range down, down from a peak of 9%.
    That is false. During President Biden’s administration, the unemployment rate has continued to decline. It currently stands at 3.7 percent1. However, under President Trump, the unemployment rate increased by 1.6 percentage points, reaching 6.3 percent2. Therefore, the statement that unemployment was lower under Trump is not accurate
    You can't use Obama's handling of Ukraine as a metric. Why? Because during Obama, Poroshenko, with Prosecutor General Shokin, were in power and their administration was totally corrupt. Which is why Biden got Poroshenko to fire Shokin, to clean up the corruption which Shokin was not doing his job.
    All presidents since FDR have been in military skirmishes of one kind or another, noting that it was Biden who had the courage to end the War ion Afghanistan, not Trump, who tied Biden's hand by reducing troops in Afghanistan, tossing out the Afghanistan government forcing him to deal only with the Taliban, not ot mention that Trump invited the Taliban to Camp David.
    No, we are in danger because Putin Puppet Mike Johnson (3 Russian oligarchs donated to his campaign) won't allocate funds to help Ukraine, and won't allow the Republican led Republican negotiated border bill to the house floor.

    In truth, Republicans don't want the border problem solved, they just want to bellyache about it to score cheap political points.
     
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