Why would you vote for Donald Trump, knowing this?

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  1. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    Tariffs on manufactured retail products that hurt US manufacturing I would support. however....
    tariffs on raw materials cost US Taxpayers money as they raise prices across the board for the products used in their manufacture, Americas pay for the tariffs, not China
    who doesn't?
    There are 13 million illegals in the US, deporting them all isn't possible or practicle.
    However, ICE does continue to do it's job.
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    The senate border bill, which Mike Johnson rejected, allocates money for the wall, in strategic areas, but a 2000 border wall cannot be built, nor would it be cost effective.
     
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    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    Sorry, several former pageant girls have come out and testify to Trump doing just that:

    https://www.cbsnews.com/losangeles/...d-to-greet-trump-even-when-not-fully-dressed/

    AS for those who say it's bogus, I can show you the taped conversation, he did say those things, I copied them down, verbatim, left out nothing.

    25 women have accused Trump of sexual abuse, the very kinds of acts he bragged about in the Hollywood Access tape, one of whom was 13 who accused Trump of raping her, along with Epstein.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump_sexual_misconduct_allegations
     
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  3. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    I've seen no evidence that is more compelling that the evidence for the claims in the Op

    He is a pervert, 25 women, one 13 of rape, accused him of the very things he brags, openly, about.

    Do the math.
     
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    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    Polls don't change the fact that he is a pervert.

    He is a candidate, and, as a concerned citizen, I feel it is my duty to alert as many people as i can to that fact.
     
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    More allegations for which there is no evidence.
     
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    garyd Well-Known Member

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    And yeah you do the math. Your lies and money hungry wenches with zero evidence for their claims aren't working.
     
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    I'm more worried about BIDEN'S behavior if we give he and his gain of idiots, ideologues, Neo-commies and other loose-screw brains power,
    You act as if Biden is some sinless saint; he's not.

    Why do I favor Trump? Here's a clue;

    sleeply joe.png
     
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    I'm not the one who posed the self-righteous hectoring toned question about folks that will be voting for Trump when you are supporting Grandpa Felony Fingers who raped his employee, Tara Reid.

    At least you still aren't trying to claim that digital penetration isn't rape, so, you're welcome.
     
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    And like payed her off or threatened to drop charges.
     
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    kriman Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I have long opposed multi-purpose bills. They allow funding that would not normally take place. In addition, they are frequently used to intentionally not pass because of the multi-function. We spend too much money. This type of bill should not be allowed.
    Then the president should not try to take credit for it lowering.

    The unemployment rate was 3.5% in Feb 2020, the last month prior to the pandemic. In February 2024, it was 3.9%. In addition, the labor participation rate was higher in Feb 2020 than in Feb 2024.
    The Chinese and other unfriendly nations have been crossing the border since before the bill was written. It did not happen in the same numbers under Trump.
     
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    sorry I deny your claims. for example, the Clinton "good years" had nothing to do with his tax hikes-he had good years DESPITE THAT for two reasons on top of the Newt Revolution curbing his excesses

    1) corporate belt tightening under Bush I led to more productivity/lower costs
    2) the dot. com bubble softened the deleterious impact of Clinton's tax hikes

    neither of those fortuitous circumstances had anything to do with clinton's policies
     
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    we cannot deport American mopes. we are stuck with them. we don't need additional felons in the USA. Dems want millions of illegals to skew congressional representation and EC votes plus the fact that the spawn of illegals will invariably be strong supporters of the party that let their parents in
     
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    LOL. So, do you really think your biased lefty posts are going to cause Trump supporters to not vote for Trump? Or, are you thinking you can stop the exodus of Democrat voters who now wish to vote for Trump, even though they will know their voting for Biden will only keep them in the misery of why they are wanting to vote for Trump in the first place?
     
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    Joe Biden is a incestuous pedophile… why would you vote for him?
     
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  15. Patricio Da Silva

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    The access Hollywood tapes and the Howard Stone tapes Are evidence and the accusations of 25 Women accusing him of the very thing he brags about. With far less evidence than that, you guys accuse.Joe biden so your fake outrage is noted
     
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    His supporters don't care. Many of those who don't support him also don't care, and don't see that as relevant to his performance as president or of the danger he presents as being so again.

    You asked why people still support him. I have you some reasons, which you yet again chose to ignore. As somebody who doesn't support Trump and would like to see him lose, I find that highly counterproductive. All you are doing is feeding into Trump's support. You are not undermining it.
     
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    I doubt most of those who whine about Trump's alleged imposition upon women give a damn either.
     
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    many on the left cannot fathom anyone who isn't a lefty so they have a rather hard time understanding that we actually care about policies, judicial appointments etc. It was the same as Obama-when we didn't support him, many on the left assumed we had to be racists because they couldn't fathom that lots of people don't like socialized medicine, judges picked because they were lesbians or latinos, rather than the best available etc
     
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    I agree. Same as those Republicans who whined endlessly about Bill Clinton and Monica likely didn't care. It's all political games and many on all sides are sick of it.
     
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    yep for sure. it was merely an avenue to attack a guy for political reasons. Now I am sure there were a few bible thumping holier than thou types who were upset that clinton was a dog but for most of them that was a facade. It's common. Most anti abortion types are more about attacking lifestyles they don't like and a culture they despise then really caring about "unborn" babies just as most gun banners only pretend about impeding criminals
     
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    Seriously? No point in discussing if that is your position.
     
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    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    There is a work shortage in a America, we need more immigrants, not less.

    The cause of this shortage are Republicans who support xenophobic, cruel and inhumane policies.

    Undocs and immigrants, as a group, commit fewer crimes than American citizens.

    Democrats support legal immigration, streamlining the path to citizenship, provide work visas for those already here over a certain period of time, as a practical matter.

    Deporting 13 million people is not possible, given the logistical nightmare it would cause.

    No president in history has solved the border problem.

    Mike Johnson, under command of Donald Trump, has shelved the Republican led Senate Border Bill.

    Therefore, the real problem are Republicans who don't want to solve the border problem,, they, like you, just want to bellyache about it to score cheap political points.

    https://immigrationforum.org/articl...d-the-problem-and-how-immigration-can-fix-it/

    https://www.politico.com/news/2021/12/04/immigration-system-labor-squeeze-523744


     
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    Your rebuttal consists of vague weasel words, emotive verbiage.

    The evidence clearly shows he is a pervert, your rebuttal doesn't negate that fact.
     
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    No, we don't assume you are racist. We are however, concerned about you supporting a criminal like T**** to lead your party.
    Being socially conservative is not an issue but supporting an openly vile human being really does not help your cause.
     
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    Well, when you elect someone bent on destroying America, it's institutions, democracy and the rule of law, who, like you, gaslight Democrats on a daily basis, don't be surprised if someone accuse you of not caring.
    Oh, it's so easy to see the world from your point of view, but impossible for you to see it from ours.

    I used to be a conservative, was going to vote for Reagan in 1980, but voted libertarian that year, and I have a good grasp on the right wing brain, and, I assure you, it's full of crap.

    there might be a couple of things we agree on, (a few remnants of libertarianism) but little else.

    But, thing is, the facts are on our side.
     

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