WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange cannot be extradited to United States, UK judge rules

This is a surprise though it has to be said the judge ruled that what he did was more than investigative journalism. She also said she believed he would get a fair trial in the US. However she has ruled against extradiction because it is believed that Assange who is apparently clinically depressed would commit suicide if he was to be extradicted to the US.

The US is going to appeal. There will be a hearing this week to discuss the possibility of bail.

WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange cannot be extradited to United States, UK judge rules | Evening Standard

 

Well, where are our conspiracy theorists now?

 

I'd like to see Trump pardon Assange and Snowden on his way out the door as a final statement on free speech and journalism. Biden sure won't do it.

 

You want to give a link where I am talking about conspiract theorists? I will not reply to any similar posts trying to take the thread off topic.

 

Some compare the judge in this case to Cruella DeVille, if I'm spelling that right.

She made the right decision, but for the wrong reasons. She does not seem interested at all in First Amendment principles, but she did the right thing.

Hopefully he will be enjoying freedom and family soon!

 

I hope so but they could still pull the same string as they did when they held him in custody before saying he might abscond which I imagine is possible. I think whether he is to have bail will be decided on Wed. Fingers crossed. Earlier I heard that the judge was married to someone who had something to do with all this and so was prejudiced. Possibly it is not the same judge. Possibly it is. It did cross my mind that she might be trying not to hurt the US Pride while saying no to extradiction on health grounds. People have of course been very concerned about his mental health and he has spent a lot of time already so lets hope he is out on bail on Wed or whenever the bail hearing is. Otherwise from what I hear he could spend several more years in a top security jail while the appeals go on.

 

Roughly two weeks left for Assange to get a pardon. The Obama admin went after him and Biden called him a "terrorist" at the time, after Wikileaks provided evidence of Deep State government corruption with the Cablegate and Iraq and Afghan War releases. He sure won't get a pardon over the next 4 years from the incoming Deep State admin.

I'm really hoping Trump will "take one moment" out of the next 2 weeks and do the right thing and Free Assange.

 

Would be wonderful to have Assange free....but tRump wouldn't recognize "the right thing" if it bit him

 

Despite being viciously attacked by the left 100% of the time for 100% of days he's been in office, Trump did do some good things.

There is quite a lot of pressure for Trump to pardon Assange (and Snowden) from both the Far Left and the right. It's the corrupt DINO/RINO establishment in the middle (who will be placed back in power in 2 weeks) who do not want defenders of truth and transparency to be released. Truth tellers make the establishment cabal look bad by removing the phony masks.

 

I humbly share your opinion regarding Assange and Snowden.
Perhaps they should even be regarded as heroes....that's why it is highly unlikely tRump would pardon them....
they outshine his illusion of himself.

 

I think what is difficult for people is actually knowing whether he was right to do what he did particularly because there was such strong propaganda about it, followed by of course accusations of rape to make most people afraid to say his name. I decided I had two choices. I could either do a bit of study on it, or I could look up a Professor of Politics who I knew had been to see him. He was strongly on Julian's side. His major expertise was on Democracy and he could see this as just another step in the West's crumbling Democracies. This guy was extremely liberal. If you do not like something get off your back side and change it rather than complaining, was his thinking. I would have called him left of centre but apparently he too is now considered 'far left'.

 

That's BS that Trump wouldn't pardon Assange and Snowden due to ego.

People don't understand the high stakes and backstabbing in politics, particularly with Established Power of the two-party system which has been increasingly harming our country for several decades.

The entire "Russia" narrative has been a DNC invention and cover up, assisted by the CIA and other intelligence agencies to keep the DINOs and RINOs in power.

Russia never leaked Clinton's emails, but having the DNC blame Russia, started off the whole Mueller investigation as Plan B to get Trump-the-outsider out of office. He threatened to expose their corruption, can't you see?

Seth Rich who was an employee of the DNC, but perhaps a Bernie Sanders supporter, was the person who leaked Clinton's emails to Assange. Not only did DNC cheat Sanders out of the 2016 nomination, they killed Seth Rich for the leaks making Hillary look bad, and then tried to pin "Russia leaks" on Trump.

Don't you get it yet? If you can't figure this out, you never will.

Flashback to August 2016:

 

Can't honestly say there is anything tRump has said or done that was not due to his ego.

 

Mexico's president is offering him asylum in Mexico.

 

Perhaps you just have a very strong preference for a left-leaning narcissist over a right-leaning one. Have you considered that?

How many human beings in the world have the psychology to think they are "The One" who should be the Leader of the Free World? Do you suppose a huge dose of narcissism and ego goes with that mentality?

Most presidents focus on leaving behind a big legacy footprint on history.



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Anyway, would you like to turn this into another Trump thread like every other thread on this forum, or would you prefer to return focus to Julian Assange now?

 

Assange, sure, but Snowden never.

 

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But....to be precise....if you look back....you are the one that introduced tRump into the conversation...needlessly...unexcusably...and now you bring Obama along with him....

 

About what?

Was there a conspiracy about him at some point.

 

Trump might pardon Assange and Biden won't is currently circulating news. Your comment about 'Trump has a big ego' is 4 years old, done every day, and completely worn out already.

 

Sure, that the 'system' or the 'deep state' would triumph over the law and take down Assange.

 

Is Assange:

A) A Russian spy
B) Charged and villified because he found out too much about DNC Party corruption and U.S. Intelligence Agency collusion

????

DNC says he's a Russian spy. Others disagree.

 

US doesn't want him - no crystal ball needed to figure that one out.

 

Again...to be precise...you are also the one who brought the word "ego" into the conversation.

What I said was this....

I fail to see how those statements are "4 years old" as you say....I just made them today.
If anything they are quite accurate and up-to-date.

And...again...to be precise...look at the date of that link you posted about Obama....looks like old news don't it??

So how many times will you call the kettle black....before you realize you are the kettle??

 

This verdict seems well intentioned but based on very spacious grounds. She is really reaching here concluding 1. He is clinically depressed and has been periodically hiding his symptoms from guards. 2. He is suicidal, and will have uncontrollable suicidal ideations if extradicted. 3. that he will not receive adequate treatment for depression in American Custody. or 4. that any possible future refusal to cooperate with a medical treatment regimen by Assange for said depression, while in American custody, lays some anticipatory duty on a British court to deny extradition. Mr. Epstein's case, as sad as it was, cannot be the basis to rip up extradition treaties.

Depression is a very common problem all over the world among convicts with restricted freedom, and the corrections divisions always have clinicians in federal prisons who have lots of options in both medication and counseling to pursue, if and when this guy says he feels like ending it all and wants treatment. Its still the obligation of any prisoner to seek treatment, self advocate for his own needs, and cooperate fully with clinical efforts. She is presuming a hell of a lot when she jumps to the prediction that this process which has not even started, will fail for Assange.

 

Maybe you are right...
First thing that came to mind was that her verdict had something to do with what happened last year....

"US billionaire Jeffrey Epstein was found dead Saturday in his cell in New York, where he was awaiting trial on charges of sexually abusing minors, while the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) opened an investigation into what appeared to be a suicide."