Will 'Brexit' inspire a 'Texit' or similar movements in the USA?

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  1. Perriquine

    Perriquine On hiatus Past Donor

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    So just what is the state of our union today, following the 'Brexit' vote? Secessionist movements are nothing new, but will the 'Brexit' vote pump new life into them?

    https://www.rawstory.com/2016/06/te...rump-fails-texit-seems-to-be-our-best-remedy/

    (I make no claims concerning the accuracy or honesty of the linked source)

    I personally doubt that 'Brexit' is likely to have much influence here. That said, the mood in the USA seems to be moving in a direction that favors increased interest in secessionist ideology even in the absence of the success of 'Brexit', and regardless of the (real or imagined) potential for breaking up the USA or moving it toward a much weaker central government.

    Thoughts?
     
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    gophangover Well-Known Member

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    The confederacy still hasn't accepted losing the Civil war. Now they have a Messiah...Trump. When they lose in November, they will not accept the loss....they will try to secede again. Trouble coming.
     
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    Nope, the U.S. federal government has far too much power for any of our states to make that leap. The government even had military exercises in the southwest recently to show off their muscles. That power our federal government possesses is why the current election is about the establishment versus populists.

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    Perriquine On hiatus Past Donor

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    A few additional questions:

    What would we lose if individual states seceded from the union? (for this hypothetical question, assume the federal government doesn't contest the secession with military force - however likely or unlikely you may personally regard that possibility to be.)

    One immediate answer is our national identity as 'Americans'. Consider what it means to no longer be a citizen of the USA.

    If we look back to the failure of the Articles of Confederation, among the oft-cited reasons are weaknesses in the areas of economics, foreign affairs, defense, lawmaking and the judiciary. Consider then the ramifications of states seceding and trying to make a go of it as independent nations, without being part of some type of union.

    Would some states attempt to form a separate union with a weaker central government, one based on trade and mutual defense, as examples? Something of the sort seems likely. It is arguable that breaking apart would make us much more vulnerable to foreign powers of established strength, who might see an opportunity to seize territory / assets / resources for themselves.

    Lastly, are the things that separate us more in the realm of ideological differences, in contrast to the things that unite us (shared economics, our common defense interests, etc.)? And if so, do they actually rise to a level where there should be serious (not merely reactionary) thought given to the possibility of separating - and to what extent?

    Edited to add: I posit as true that the individual states of the USA and their relationship to our central government and each other are not comparable to Great Britain & the European Union. If someone wishes to argue otherwise, I am open to hearing you make your case.
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    no state can legally leave the USA without permission from 2/3rds of the other states.
     
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    Spooky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No state could survive on their own. The federal government would seriously crush them just on commerce alone.
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Texas and California are the only states that could make it alone.

    but Texas relies greatly on Federal contracts

    California would suffer greatly from tarrifs on their food exports
     
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    To get the troops and equipment to the Southwest to display the show of force Obama asked the Spce Alien force stationed secretly at Area 51 and Area 367 b. To move the troops and equipment to the point where the excercises were being conducted. People all over 5Texas , Oklahoma, Arizona, and NewMexjco reported flying saucers and flying triangles the size of 5 football fields flying overhead.

    Some people reported that Space Aliens were seen directing UN Troops during the excercises in Texas.
    The UN troops were seen flying around in UN blue colored UFO,s.

    It is Obvious that Barack gas turned the command and control over to Space Aliiens and to the Blue Helmits
    If the UN.
     
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    Spooky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The federal government could shut down all road and air travel. They could also shut down major water supplies.
     
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    Seth Bullock Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    We could pull out out of the NAFTA treaty and call it USEXIT. :wink:
     

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