Will more black people vote for Republicans this year?

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  1. JakeJ

    JakeJ Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes, more blacks will vote Republican if it is Trump, no if it is Cruz or Kasich.

    Time and time again we've seen blacks who greatly disagree with open borders allowing millions of illegal migrant Latinos sucking up jobs and massive sums of government assistance money going to illegal migrants. The Democrat party has essentially abandoned black relying on they will virtually all vote Democrat to focus all their free-money stuff on Latinos.
     
  2. Andrew Jackson

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    The only thing you need to understand is this:

    Hillary will get well over 90% of the black vote in November.

    A very rudimentary concept to grasp.
     
  3. PatriotNews

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    And what if she doesn't? What if she only gets 75%? It will be over for the democrats.
     
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    Whether Black Americans suddenly stop supporting the Democratic candidate in large numbers - Clinton, Gore, Kerry, Obama - depends upon whether they follow Angry White Guys' recommendation as to how they should vote.

    My guess is that most will not.
     
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    How about this?
     
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    "Black people"? Skin pigmentation vs political belief. More division :(
     
  7. Professor Peabody

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    E-16. Unemployment rates by age, sex, race, and Hispanic or Latino ethnicity

    Total, 16 years and over

    White - 4.6%
    Black or African American - 9.0%
    Asian - 3.8%
    Hispanic or Latino - 6.1%

    http://www.bls.gov/web/empsit/cpsee_e16.htm


    The Democrats haven't done much to help either. 8 years of Obama and who's the highest?
     
  8. Andrew Jackson

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    Anything is possible. The world could end. Then what?

    BUT, if one is dealing in REALITY--there is no chance (none) of the Dem nominee getting "only" 75% of the black vote.

    But, yeah, if you want to deal in 1 in a Trillion hypotheticals-- If Hillary got 75% (or less) of the black vote it would be negated by the aliens landing in DC and taking over.
     
  9. PatriotNews

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    Why do you think that? Do you think that the democrats own black people? Do you think that the blacks are still slaves to those plantation owning slave owning democrats of yesteryear? Blacks aren't slaves for the democrat party. They can vote for whomever they want. They don't owe anything to Hillary Clinton.
     
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    You seem a bit obsessed with the importance of Charles Evers. Why? In political terms he has been a fringe figure in the black community since the 80s. Why do you think that black people will fall over themselves to vote for a candidate just because a guy who was involved in 'the movement' 50 years ago said they should? Would you expect Conservatives to flock to Clinton if a white guy who hung out with William F. Buckley told them to?

    If you are obsessed with 'the movement' then Evers is a minor figure compared to John Lewis, who is a close Clinton ally. Of course, that is substantially less important than the legion of black politicians & community leaders who also back Clinton. They, in turn, reflect the opinions of their constituents as much as they direct them. The Clintons have spent decades building close ties to black communities & black voters and that is paying off for Hillary.

    I remain fascinated by the obsession conservative white Americans have with telling black people how they should vote without ever examining why they vote the way they do. They never seem to be given any credit for having good reasons to vote the way they do.The same sort of standards are never applied to white southern Evangelicals, who vote GOP in similar proportions. No consideration is given to the possibility that black voters know the Dems are doing a bad job, but have good reasons to trust the GOP even less.
     
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    Its to show that Trump is not racist vs blacks because there are civil rights leaders of that stature endorsing him. He also has his own set of pastors and black leaders endorsing him.

    Basically I feel sad for AA. They have given their loyalty to a party that has constantly thrown them under the bus and would like to see them get some of that loyalty rewarded.
     
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    Less will come out to vote. So, maybe percentage wise it will look better, because I assume more blacks will be willing to vote republican against a white democrat than a black one. But in straight numbers, more blacks will vote democrat.

    This is just realistic. Still it feels strangely slimy to acknowledge it.
     
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    it feels slimy because you know how bad they have been.
     
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    Since 1964 90% of blacks have voted for the Democratic nominee and that isn't going to change this year. Since 1964 only Nixon in 1968 and Ford in 1976 managed to receive as high as 15% of the black vote. The lows were Goldwater in 1964, 6% of the black vote, McCain 4% in 2008 and Romney at 6% in 2012. So if Trump can manage the average 10% of the black vote that would be an improvement over the last two presidential elections.

    The current average in the polls show Clinton averaging 88% of the black vote to Trump's 6% with the rest undecided.
     
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    Once again I have to ask why? What have democrats done for blacks that make black people want to vote for the democrats? Sure the democrats used to own blacks back in the 1860's, but they don't own them anymore, or do they? Why do blacks vote democrat? Democrats and their policies are responsible for the high crime rates, the break up of the families, the drugs and the crime in black neighborhoods. Democrats are responsible for segregation, even the segregation we still see to this day in the black community. These "inner-city" areas where blacks live are a result of democrat leadership in all these major cities. They intentionally keep black people segregated. Even Obama does the bidding of all the white democrat politicians by denying a decent education to young black children by ending the voucher system that republicans passed and was loved by black parents and D.C. Delegate Eleanor Holmes Norton.

    Democrats sure treat blacks like their slaves. They didn't want them to be able to read back then, and they don't want them to read now.
     
  16. perdidochas

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    Robert "KKK" Byrd was a beloved member of the Democrat party until his death. Bill Clinton's mentor, William Fulbright, was not different. More Dixiecrats left the Dem party due to death than due to joining Republicans.
     
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    !7 more will vote Republican, which would help if 10,000 of us were not leaving.
     
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    Democrats talk the game blacks like to hear. Never mind they do anything but talk. Then too the Republicans have not done anything to try to entice blacks to join them.
     
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    I think you've hit the nail on the head. Although trust isn't the only reason, I think trust is a big part of it. Black people simply don't trust Republicans, and are willing to tolerate a lot of abuse by Democrats because they fear Republicans are just waiting for the opportunity to chain them to the back of a pick up and go Dukes of Hazzard on 'em.
     
  20. PatriotNews

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    As if a political party needs to pander to people based on race or ethnicity. I think our selling
    points should be our policies, our respect for Constitutional limits on government, individual
    freedom, free market capitalism and a strong defense. I think that vouchers have been beneficial
    to blacks and others and there are many other policies that are beneficial to all Americans. The
    GOP has done things to entice blacks and minorities to join the republican party, but it is up to
    them to see through the smoke screen and disinformation of racism from the racist media and
    democratic party.
     
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    You're not black. I don't believe you even talk to black people. :)
     
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    Distrust of GOP is part of the equation, but only part. There are some interconnected phenomena. The other parts are the bit conservatives don't see because they are so busy reciting their well rehearsed 'Democrats hate black people' lists or their 'black people are too stupid to know what is good for them' routines.

    The Dems had been getting a higher or equal share of black votes or black support since the 30s. Why? because they have long had better connections with the working class & more disadvantaged, especially in the Northern industrial cities black Americans streamed to in the early C20th. In that environment the Democrats were no longer the bogeyman, and were considerably more committed to forming networks in black communities than Republicans in the South were at the same time.

    The Dems are the party that stood up when Civil Rights finally became a national issue in the 60s. Reluctantly at first, but then decisively. It stood up to the Southern part of its party & effectively abandoned it. That the GOP then chased & secured the ongoing support of that voting demographic simply cemented the voting shift. Long time Republican Jackie Robinson picked the shift in 1964. So did most other black voters.

    Ultimately the Democrats found a place for black voters and as importantly black representatives in their party. They courted them & promoted them. They don't recruit an occasional black face & then indignantly scream 'see, we embrace diversity' in the way the GOP does. They actually embrace diversity. That isn't the same as doing a great job for black communities, where the record is decidedly mixed. However, when faced with a choice between a flawed party that at least makes an attempt to engage & one that simply lectures you on how lazy & stupid you must be not to vote for them, there isn't much of a choice that needs to be made.
     
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    part of that is the gop gave up after being continually rejected. They thought they would be able to make headway with another demographic. They shouldnt have given up so quickly and I believe that a Trump run represents an opportunity there. After all in this election trump will be the one who is protecting the workers as hillary tries to impose TPP and free trade.
     
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    No.


    character count.
     
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    They institituted it on their own continent and it spread to this one.

    (*)(*)(*)(*) happens.

    (What continent still has slavery, lol)
     

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