Will Syria Break Up?

Discussion in 'Middle East' started by Taxcutter, Jul 18, 2013.

  1. Taxcutter

    Taxcutter New Member

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    Neither side shows any sign of being able to close the deal. Arabs can't take long high-intensity war. They have to go home and beat their women.

    They might have to split up and rest up for another go at each other.
     
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    Iran/ Iraq lasted what - about 10 years? Heck, it's still quietly going on for all I know. LOL When you live on 10 million square mile beach, what else is there to do but f*ck with each other? Making sand castles only works if you have some shore line and a plastic pail. I suppose the muzzies could build scarab race tracks. Kind of like really tiny horses.......
     
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    tecoyah Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    two more years of killing each other for freedom.....before they go back to killing each other for Allah.
     
  4. Stuart Wolfe

    Stuart Wolfe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    With who? Who is Syria dating? Kristin Stewart?
     
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    I would not underestimate the passion of Arabs to kill each other.

    AboveAlpha
     
  6. SyrianGirl1982

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    No to breakup of Syria

    Yes to victory of Syrian Army

    Yes to destruction of FSA, Al-Nusra, Wahhabis, Salafis
     
  7. AboveAlpha

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    Sweetie...if you don't mind me asking...how old are you.

    This is an honest question with no ill intent.

    AboveAlpha
     
  8. ThirdTerm

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    The West has abandoned the plan to arm the Syrian rebels and the Assad regime is expected to survive the current insurgency with Hezbollah's help and rebel-held territories would be taken back by the Syrian government forces in a year or two. The fall of Assad could create more problems such as loose chemical weapons and non-intervention seems to be the best available policy. General Sir David Richards warned that any military action in Syria could make the situation much worse.

     
  9. SyrianGirl1982

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    Around 30 , why?
     
  10. AboveAlpha

    AboveAlpha Well-Known Member

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    And where exactly in Syria are you living?

    Don't worry...I will make certain you have nothing to fear from me.

    AboveAlpha
     
  11. SyrianGirl1982

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    I am originally from Darayya (near Damascus) but it lays in ruins now. Was in Syria late last year. i am currently out of Syria.
     
  12. AboveAlpha

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    That's what I thought.

    There is NO WAY you could be talking to me from Syria on the net.

    AboveAlpha
     
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    If Syria breaks up expect much much trouble , specially if an independent Kurdistan is created.
     
  14. AboveAlpha

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    The thing with Syria is...there is just no up side no matter which side wins.

    Assad will fall. The only question is who will fill the vacuum?

    AboveAlpha
     
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    I am no longer sure Assad will fail. The rebels are becoming more factional and non-cooperative with each other instead of more so and this is translating into increase success on the battlefield for the pro-Assad forces. Just where is it written that Assad will lose: historically, rebels lose more often than the establishment does.
     
  16. AboveAlpha

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    Assad will fall as long as the current CIA support of Syrian Rebel Forces continues.

    It will just have to take longer to avoid the public appearance the CIA is involved.

    AboveAlpha
     
  17. georgephillip

    georgephillip Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Do you have any advice for the girls of Lebanon, Iran, Somalia, and Sudan?

    "In (US General Wesley) Clark's book, Winning Modern Wars, published in 2003, he describes his conversation with a military officer in the Pentagon shortly after 9/11 regarding a plan to attack seven Middle Eastern countries in five years: 'As I went back through the Pentagon in November 2001, one of the senior military staff officers had time for a chat.

    "'Yes, we were still on track for going against Iraq, he said. But there was more. This was being discussed as part of a five-year campaign plan, he said, and there were a total of seven countries, beginning with Iraq, then Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Iran, Somalia and Sudan."

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wesley_Clark#General_Clark.27s_Book_on_Modern_Wars
     
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    Surely you don't believe Wesley Clark.

    - - - Updated - - -

    Surely you don't believe Wesley Clark.
     
  19. georgephillip

    georgephillip Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Surely a man of Wesley's distinguished character would not lie to us about the mass murder, maiming, and displacement of millions of innocent Muslims (present, past, and future)?
     
  20. Mr. Swedish Guy

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    Wow, that's hard. I can't imagine having my hometown laying in ruins, nor having my country engulfed in a civil war. Aren't you panicked/angry?

    anyways, as for the thread: I would like to see the whole middle east dedrawn to fit entho-religious borders. then perhaps we will see and end to all ethnic and religious violence. This is my plan for pretty much the whole world by the way. I'm not that into the middle east so tell me, does there actually exist such a thing as an iraqi or syrian or are they just made up ethnicities like those in africa? Are the middle eastern borders just the former european colonies just like in africa, completely ignoring ethnic borders?
     
  21. alexa

    alexa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I suspect it is a lot more troublesome than most of you seem to be suggesting. RT yesterday was saying that Al Qaeda is wanting a State in Northern Syria, hence the recent more obvious fighting with 'FSA'

    http://rt.com/op-edge/al-qaeda-syria-threat-284/

    RT said yesterday that they believed that Al Qaeda were going to announce their state after Ramadan.
     
  22. Taxcutter

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    Might this be the time that the Kurds in northern Syria join those in northern Iraq in forming a Kurdish state?
     
  23. SyrianGirl1982

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    Here is some footage from my home city.

    [video=youtube_share;L1j97ZlNssY]http://youtu.be/L1j97ZlNssY[/video]

    The borders were drawn by European powers. I do not think that this a huge issue.

    Yes there is such a thing as Syrian and Iraqi. People in Syria always identified as Syrians and sectarianism was not welcome. The society was secular and people of all groups got along just fine. Syria is about 65% Sunni, 15% Alawite, 10% Christian and 10% Kurdish. There were never any problems and everyone went about their daily lives. There are some radical forces like Muslim Brotherhood which seek to make it all about Sunni vs Shia. That is who started the war, they want to take us back to the stone age.
     
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    georgephillip Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    "The War on Lebanon and the Battle for Oil

    by Michel Chossudovsky

    Global Research, July 26, 2006

    "Is there a relationship between the bombing of Lebanon and the inauguration of the World’s largest strategic pipeline, which will channel more than a million barrels of oil a day to Western markets?

    "Virtually unnoticed, the inauguration of the Ceyhan-Tblisi-Baku (BTC) oil pipeline, which links the Caspian sea to the Eastern Mediterranean, took place on the 13th of July, at the very outset of the Israeli sponsored bombings of Lebanon."

    There are a series of maps buried in this link which show "Free Kurdistan" taking its place among some other new additions in today's Middle East; Iraq, for example, is to be divided into an "Arab Shia State", "Sunni Iraq", and "Baghdad City State."
     
  25. Mr. Swedish Guy

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    Ugh, sucky to have your hometown turned into.. that. You have my sympathy.

    A clear sunni majority then? That's key for maintaining stability in any country in my view. And there's such a thing as syrian-ness that people feel attachment to? Well good then, but appearently not good enough since you have these rebels. Is that just because of radicalisation and sectarianism perhaps? Very well, this reinforces my belief that if I'm to support any side of this war it ought to be the assad side because they seem to espouse some kind of nationalism and are secular. keep fighting woman!
     

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