Will they repeal the ACA?

I was insured all of my life but due to cost after Obamacare I can no longer afford health care insurance. So you're suggesting that I should be ok with that? Wake up, many people are on medicaid and I'm sure there will be a program for others.

 

All the more reason for it to be replaced with something better.

 

So WTF do you care since you live in Stank water Australia?
Worst Healthcare on the planet too.

 

The Republicans should be PRAYING that the Dems filibuster ANYTHING after this election.

They would love to paint the Dems as the party of obstruction.

If I were advising the Dems...I would advise them to simply the Republicans that if they bring up legislation like that...they will vote against it, but NOT FILIBUSTER.

Let the Republicans repeal ACA.

We'll see where that leads.

 

Yes, but what we have now is a VERY expensive catastrophic plan as the deductibles are massive so your actual out of pocket is vast. If we let folk simply buy catastrophic plans, used a risk pool that is subsidized for pre existing conditions, and let people buy any plan anywhere, we would cut costs to the people a LOT.

 

NYS has a patient bill of Rights, technically, you don't need Healthcare Insurance if you know how the Healthcare system works.

 

Preventive care would save Billions, as well as weeding out Smokers and Alcoholics and Drug addicts and really obese people that flat out refuse to do anything to stay healthy.

Make them pay more.

Prescriptions for managing things like Hypertension would in long term save Billions in long term care and Dialysis and blindness and strokes etc .

Why give Healthcare to Heroin addicts ?
Or Meth, or Crack etc...

 

They have 48 votes and the majority can do the same thing that the dems did, use reconciliation and pass it by a vote or so...

 

49 votes with Bernie Sanders.

ACA will not be formally repealed.

 

When you project savings you should think about who it is that is not getting paid as much - that is, where is the savings coming from?

So, in your brief proposal here, who is not getting paid as much?

Or, perhaps one could ask what is it that would not being provided? That can result in savings, too.

Let's remember that the ACA has insurance companies competing with each other on plans that they define, price and administer.

Also, let's remember that there are states that allow insurance companies to sell their policies across state lines - but, insurance companies aren't finding any advantage in doing that, for some very good reasons that have to do with how insurance companies work to keep prices competitive.

 

That could work if there were differing bills passed by the Senate and the House.

But, you seem to be suggesting that bills that have NOT passed could be sent to reconcilliation.

 

Well...I hope it is. I hope Donald Trump and the Republican congress gets it way.

Suggest obstruction if you want...but in my opinion, that is exactly what the Republicans are counting oin...and HAVE been counting on all the time. Then they can still say...it is not our fault. They would not cooperate.

DEMOCRATS IN CONGRESS: Vote NO when you do not like the bills proposed...BUT NEVER, NEVER, NEVER ever filibuster any bill.

 

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You assume Trump will oppose it?

 

we never had ObamaCare, that was the public option, what we got was the ACA with the conservatives individual mandate, will be interesting to see what TrumpCare looks like

if Trump is smart, he will tell congress to come up with a new healthcare plan and say he wants both dems and republicans to work on it, that way it will be called BipartisanCare, cause republicans do not want to be the last to touch it or they get all the blame for future high costs, Democrats made that mistake once, Republicans should learn from it

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those 22 million americans didn't mind (*)(*)(*)(*)ing the other 280 million americans did they ?

but to answer your question, I don't think they will. The GOP was grandstanding and knew their repeal bills would go nowhere.
Now they won't do it.

 

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The VA has been used as a federal dumping ground for useless and inept Affirmative Action staff. That's the problem with the VA. It has also developed a very poisonous management bureaucracy. The government did the same to the post office.

 

The real problem with the VA is that liberals hate veterans and the military in general, they also hate anyone who doesn't agree with them. We cannot have a national healthcare program in this country until we know we can trust liberals with government and that they won't use it as a weapon against their political enemies...

 

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I see. Such is life.

 

The GOP has been no better at all. In fact it could be argued that they have been worse.

If all voters depended on the VA we would make it work, or we would replace it.

 

Sanders is already in the count as is King from Maine...the number is 48 with one still outstanding but will be Republican from La.

 

remember, the scheme is only so expensive because the government insists on covering a host of things many people do not need or desire. Letting folk buy policies that cover what they need or desire cuts costs. Plus block granting medicaid to the states lets the states determine who gets welfare and limits it to what the state can afford.

 

No, I am trying to say that every legislative scheme, shortcut or process used by the dems to pass the mess to start with should be used to get rid of it. They passed it using reconciliation and they can craft the process and bills the same way to kill it.

 

Remember, the greatest part of that 22 million is folk added to medicaid, welfare if you will. They were not paying bupkiss for the scheme but getting the benefit. If I was in charge I'd mandate that those numbers not change for a year, then block grant Obamacare subsidies to the states with the total capped to the same inflation numbers the government uses to keep folk on Social Security from getting their coast of living bumps. In short, freeze the program we have and then separate out the crap in the existing plan, junk that, then figure out how to fix the good bits, few as there are. Anything done should be phased in over a year to 18 months but at the end, the mess goes away.

If it was me, I'd simply make every health care cost tax deductible after the first $1000 and insist only cheap catastrophic plans offered have deductibles above a grand or so.

 

Hell with that...Make Congress use the VA as their health care program...THAT would fix it quick.

 

WTF? who you think has more % of unnecessary deaths under their belts..Private unregulated insurance, or ACA modified private insurance/VA healthcare. Including when they capped the Payout at x%, or just straight got a deniel of coverage letter do to what ever serious condition came up was not covered due to it being linked to a preexisting condition....Like being born in the first place with bad genes!

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Umm that is already part of the ACA. I got a $13.50 an hour raise my self, when that part went into effect...You just gotta ask for it..

Ignorance and lack of understanding is gonna cost us alot....