Will they repeal the ACA?

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  1. squidward

    squidward Well-Known Member

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    The medicaid issue is a small portion of the 2000 page bill.
     
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    I guarantee he'll oppose it.
     
  3. JIMV

    JIMV Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    But its the lions share of new insured folk....The people paying are paying for both their families care and the millions on medicaid. It's why the premiums are so very high, actually ridiculous...first spend thousands a year for the policy and then pay thousands more for the deductible....

    I'd also immediately stop the fine for not having the mess.
     
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    I had cancer, I can tell you, I used up every dollar I ever paid into insurance during my life time... glad I had insurance, that is how insurance works

    when you buy car insurance, your also paying for the guy with the rich car as well as your own..... as the risk is spread around.....

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  5. squidward

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    There are massive amounts of regulatory issues in that bill, choking the life out of physicians and hospitals. They are costing practices huge amount of money thanks to mountains of compliance and reporting related regulations
     
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    Capitalism would reduce health care costs 80% and add 10-20 years to our life spans. We all have to pray for Trump.
     
  7. JIMV

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    Yes but you didn't have the government telling you the size of your coverage.
     
  8. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I still don't, the corps I have worked for always give me a couple choices...... before and after the ACA

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  9. Lesh

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    Repeal or no repeal, the healthcare system is now on the GOP.

    Rates go up?It's on the GOP.
    You lose your insurance? GOP
     
  10. Quantum Nerd

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    Here is an update on the issue from cnn from today:

    http://money.cnn.com/2016/11/10/news/economy/trump-obamacare/index.html?iid=hp-stack-dom

    They assume that Trump won't repeal the ACA, at least not immediately. This goes along with what some on this thread, like FAW, have said.

    Maybe it would be politically too costly to take away insurance from 20 million Americans? It is always easier to be the opposition and criticize, pretending to try repeal to cater to the base, than being in the drivers seat.

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    Spot on!
     
  11. JIMV

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    and the rates go down and the fine go away and that is also on the GOP
     
  12. tkolter

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    I can fix that put all wounded veterans into Medicare, waive the costs for those who are considered too wounded to be employed and add in a veterans advantage plan that is good supported by the government or let them pick any other similar plan and scrap the rest of the system save specialized mental health and a pool of cases so severe they need that support at a high level. It could save money if done well and let veterans get excellent care in the very fine health care system we have now. The VA is a relic of the past before we had a high degree of health care we have now available to the public.

    As for the ACA a repeal is unlikely but they can cripple it enough to end it without a repeal, and 39 states expanded Medicaid GOP or not the Congressmen would unlikely take that money away from people back home so any changes would be carefully made.
     
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    A single question comes to mind...who care what the dems declare. It only matters if they win, which they didn't.
     
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    Evidently they think they can go to Total War over BO Care.....of course they have been shown why they will lose before they can even start.
    Check out the stats and chart.
     
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    Exactly. The Unaffordable Care Act is NOT a solution. It's forced us to move forward with health care reform, and that is a good thing for sure, but it cannot be allowed to remain in its present form.
     
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    Absolutely. But then that never happens so....
     
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    So you want to cripple the healthcare that 6 million people depend on. Nice.

    Why not put everyone into Medicare and make it a "pay per" for those not eligible presently?

    If it's good enough for the Vets and the retirees...why not allow those who have no health insurance to buy in?

    And while we're at it it...allow Medicare to negotiate for drug prices like the VA does.
     
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    totally disorganized and stupid libcommie way to look at it. Why not switch to Republican capitalism to reduce prices 80% and extend our lives by 10--20 years???
     
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    According to the left Trump never becomes president too....have you not learned it is foolish to underestimate trump?
     
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    Very well said and put together!
     
  22. Lesh

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    So in spite of the fact that healthcare premiums have never gone down in the past (either before or after the ACA) you think it's a reasonable expectation?

    We'll see..and remind you often.

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    Ummmthat's what we had and it's why we NEEDED the ACA in the first place.

    It didn't WORK...and it sure as hell wasn't 80% cheaper
     
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    and the solution is Republican capitalism which would reduce prices 80% and extend our lives 10-20 years. Remember East /West Germany Etc etc
     
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    My Fing ID Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Wait so you're saying it will be repealed and replaced with the same thing? Probably, but with a few extras for the insurance companies. Worth remembering this was and still is (*)(*)(*)(*) legislation that was written by insurance companies and given to Democrats who didn't even bother reading it before putting it into law. There are no good guys here. Also it's already "competition" based.
     
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    Actually, competition between health insurance companies was made illegal in 1946 by McCarran Furguson. Trump plans to fix that. Its always amazing what a liberal does not know.
     

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