Will Trump ever be Held Accountable for Jan 6th

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Looking Back on Jan. 6th, is Trump Accountable for.(Pick all that Apply)

  1. Deaths, Dismemberment, and Subsequent Mental Issues

    22.2%
  2. Trump Incited the Riot

    61.1%
  3. Trump Broke at Least one Law of the United States

    50.0%
  4. Trump Violated his Constitutional Oath of Office

    50.0%
  5. Trump Should not have Waited 3-1/2 hours to call off the mob.

    61.1%
  6. Antifa was Responsible for the Jan 6th attack, not Trump

    11.1%
  7. If Pence would have done the Right Thing, Jan 6th wouldn't have Happened

    16.7%
  8. Trump was in the Right, because the Election was Stolen

    27.8%
  9. Those who breached the Capitol were Insurerectionists, something Trump denies

    55.6%
  10. Those who breached the Capitol were patriots something Trump claims

    22.2%
  11. The entire Incident indicates that Trump is a Sore Loser

    61.1%
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  1. Bowerbird

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    Ummm it is not the watching it - it was the watching it whilst sitting on his fat arse doing sweet fanny Adams
     
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    This article has a list of all the people who died as a result of the January 6th insurrection. Sore loser Trump's tried all legal court challenges; and every one off them failed. So then sore loser Trump decided to organize this "Stop the Steal" event. He is responsible for everything that occurred on his "Big Lie" day, because the entire event was held under false pretexts.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/05/us/politics/jan-6-capitol-deaths.html

    A bipartisan Senate report, released in June, found that the seven deaths were connected to the Capitol attack. But the report was issued a month before two Metropolitan Police officers — Gunther Hashida and Kyle DeFreytag — died by suicide in July.
     
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    I wonder if he ordered popcorn?
     
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    Doesn't go well with ketchup running down walls..
     
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    Trump was impeached twice (which does NOT INCLUDE ANY CONVICTION) because his political enemies will do anything to destroy him Impeachments, investigations, almost 100 indictments... and NOT ONE SINGLE CRIMINAL CONVICTION ANYWHERE.

    Trump really looked out for us. He gave us lower gas prices, lower inflation, and a stronger military. He gave us more secure borders, peace accords in the Middle East, and made folks with personal loans pay them off themselves.

    Trump was never became "pals" with any dictators. He talked with them pursued peace with them in a setting of logic and reason. I asumme you would prefe our President just nuke all our enemies and kill millions... including our own citizens. You seem to also want the USA to be the world's policeman, stiucking its nose into the internal affairs of every other nation. A nice pipedream... at best.

    Trump's lies were more often jokes that Democrats won't laugh at than anything else. He rarely lied about anything important, although he probably did sometimes, purely by mistake. Trump was and is a big supporter of the military, from giving the biggest pay raise in decades to keeping them out of harms way.

    He fire EVERYONE ha offered negative advice? Have you ever had an executive job? Try openly opposing your boss at the executive level. Have your resume updated before you do. Some Trump staffers ended up in court sometimes because of the liberal vendetta against Trump. Liberals will try to indict almost anyone not on their side. BTW... you keep mentioning Trump lies... yet never name a single one.

    Why are you concerned with Trump's sexual attitudes? Jealous? I have a priest for moral guidance. I want my President to ensure the safety and prosperity of my family. Trump did that for four years, and hopefully will again.

    How does Trump act like a dictator? Does he force us into EV's we don't want? Does he tell us what kitchen appliances we should use? Does Trump make us pay off the private college loans of other people? Did Trump violate his oath and the Constitution and allow millions of illegal through the border he opened wide? Oh, wait, that's the dictator in the White House RIGHT NOW. Can offer a link or two to your contention that Trump said Dems eat babies? Or did you get so fixated on lies that you joined in? Dems want to be left alone while climbing into other people's garages to force them in EV, kitchens to eliminate gas powered appliances, etc.

    Trump had this country running smoothly. Ask anyone that buys groceries, a car, or a home... things that have become harder and harder to do since he left office. Religion is a Democrat issue. The relative nastiness 9of "Evangelicals" is a routine subject in Democrat speeches. Republicans revere "patriotism" while Democrats never use that word. All Democrats refer to is "nationalism". a liberal corruption of the word "patriotism" which unsuccessfully attempts to say that love of country is something that only religious zealots feel.

    I get the feeling you live in a blue northern city. The discord you mention is Democrat thing. Democrats divide the population into groups, then set them against each other. Authoritarian forces always do that... Nazis against Jews, Ba'athists against no-Ba'athists, Muslims against "infidels" and so on. Hillary started the ball rolling by calling opponents "deplorables' Biden carries on that tradition to this day... Angry Biden Resorts To Name-Calling Fellow Democrat (msn.com).

    Do you REALLY believe that the Capitol is "the building where everyone who runs the government works"? You think the President works there? You think the CIA works there? You think the State Department works there. You think the military is headquartered there? You thing the FBI, DOE FDA, GOJ all work there? You think the Supreme Court meets in the Capitol? Really?

    Kidnap> Torture? LOL When you hear someone yell "Kill the Umpire!" at a ball game... do you fear for the Umpire's life?" Really?

    Trump was good for people my age. He kept our enemies at bay. I felt safe. When Biden ran from Afghanistan like a scalded dog, arming the terrorist Taliban in the process, them repeated his cowardice by letting China freely send an intelligence gathering system across our entire country. and validated his cowardice by taking no action at all when Russia splashed a Predator into international waters. Biden's cowardice emboldened our enemies from Putin's invasion of Ukraine, to ISIS attacking our service members in the mideast to the Houthi attacking shipping, to the cartels having free reign over our borders. Our enemies know that Biden is a coward and will never confront them. They are free to attack... and kill... us.

    I felt a lot safer and more comfortable under Trump. Biden has allowed Chinese enemy forces and terrorists to gain access to our country. Cartels and gangs, are among us now. Russia is actively discussing the use of nuclear weapons for the first time in decades. I could buy a gallon of gas for $2.39 under Trump. No more. The $100 I spent at the grocery store under Trump bought what it now takes about $130 to buy. None of these things happened under Trump. These are gifts from Biden.

    I was much better off under Trump... and hopefully will be again.
     
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    Don't bet on it.
     
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    No need to bet. I vote.
     
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    If he's convicted of a felony in criminal court, will you still vote for him? Polls show that that will be a red line for a lot of voters.

    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/20...tion-changes-2024-race-latest-poll-rcna137087

    On the original ballot, Biden and Trump are tied 42%-42% among voters ages 18 to 34. But when these voters are asked about their ballot choice if Trump is convicted, they break for Biden by 15 points, 47%-32%.
     
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    Haven't really given it much thought. I don't worry about a Martian invasion much either.
     
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    Only one person died as a result and that was an unarmed civilian who was posing an ummunent threat to anyone's life or limb
     
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    This article has a list of all the people who died as a result of the January 6th insurrection. Sore loser Trump's tried all legal court challenges; and every one off them failed. So then sore loser Trump decided to organize this "Stop the Steal" event. He is responsible for everything that occurred on his "Big Lie" day, because the entire event was held under false pretexts.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/05/us/politics/jan-6-capitol-deaths.html

    A bipartisan Senate report, released in June, found that the seven deaths were connected to the Capitol attack. But the report was issued a month before two Metropolitan Police officers — Gunther Hashida and Kyle DeFreytag — died by suicide in July.
     
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    None of them dies as a result of Jan 6, no ine was charged with a homicide you are repeating hyperbole.
     
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    I didn't say that anybody was charged. The report of the 7 deaths was done by a Bipartisan Senate committee. Two of the officers committed suicide after the report came out. That's where the 9 number came from.
     
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    There was no proof they were caused by Jan 6 you have no idea what mental steuggles they may have suffered from before or after. Some Senators wanted them given "in the line ofmduty benefits" and engaged in the conjecture and assumptions in their report.
     
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    Sure friend, whatever you say. Four of them just coincidentally committed suicide after the attack. Just a coincidence :bleh: Three others died the day of the attack - just a coincidence. I'm afraid you're just going to have to admit that the Senate had it right.

    WASHINGTON — As a pro-Trump protest turned into a violent attack on the Capitol on Jan. 6 last year, four people in the crowd died.
    • Ashli Babbitt, an Air Force veteran, was fatally shot by a Capitol Police officer as rioters tried to breach the House chamber.
    • Kevin D. Greeson died of a heart attack, collapsing on the sidewalk west of the Capitol on Jan. 6.
    • Rosanne Boyland appeared to have been crushed in a stampede of fellow rioters as they surged against the police.
    • Benjamin Philips, the founder of a pro-Trump website called Trumparoo, died of a stroke.
    Mr. Greeson and Mr. Philips died of natural causes, the Washington medical examiner said in April. He added that Ms. Boyland’s death was caused by an accidental overdose.

    In the days and weeks after the riot, five police officers who had served at the Capitol on Jan. 6 died.

     
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    And......they were not killed in the line of duty nor can anyone singularly attribute Jan 6 to their deaths. The stroke had NOTHING to do with Jan 6. The heart attack had NOTHING to do with the riot or Jan 6 the man was not near the fray and suffered from high blood pressure, you have no idea the mental condition of any of the suicides before Jan 6 or after so stop using them for your political purposes.
     
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    That was a Senate BIPARTISAN report. Who's the one using them for political purposes by calling them all just a bunch of coincidences. Sore Loser Trump is responsible, because of the entire bogus Stop the Steal BS.
     
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    I don't care if it was a TRUMP report the fact is none of those deaths except for the unarm citizen who was murdered can be directly attributed to Jan 6. The others were natural causes or later suicides which is pure conjecture to attribute to Jan 6.
     
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    Yeah because when liberals lose elections they don't lose their minds, make false accusations of the new president being illegitimate, or violently riot. Nope, would never happen...


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    Sorry but your argument is simply not apples to apples. Hillary conceded. Sore Loser Trump didn't. People are always upset after elections. After Romney lost to Obama in 2012 there were a lot of upset people. The difference is how the candidates respond - I for one, will never vote for an election denier, whether it be Trump, Kari Lake, or any of the Sore Losers.
     
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    You have to ask yourself - would those deaths have happened had it not have been for Trumps Sore Loser Stop the Steal bogus rally? The Bipartisan Senate committee said NO. Would they have happened had Trump stopped the insurrection immediately, instead of waiting 3-1/2 hours while watching on TV.
     
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    Bzzz. More Fake news. Try again.

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    Again supposition, conjecture and postulatioms do not make for facts. Qoukd they hace died had Pelosi had adequate security in place?
     
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    Sure, blame Pelosi for the Jan.6th Sore Loser Trump mess.
     
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    why not, she's as responsible as anyone else
     
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