With All the Information out, Do you believe Trump should be President again?

It does seem that your true colors are starting to show. You are a Trump man.

By the same token and in spite of the successes you mention, Trump has the record for the highest personal debt load by an entrepreneur ever. In 1998 he amassed a personal debt of $1.1 billion and there wasn't a single U.S. bank that would loan him any money. He was on the brink of the biggest collapse ever but he was fortunate that the Deutsche Bank loaned him money. The Deutsche Bank has been linked directly to Russia

Bank that lent $300m to Trump linked to Russian money laundering scam

in addition and during that same period of time, Trump did a business partnership with the Bayrock Group (lasted 7 years) and that group was also strongly linked to Russia and the Russian mob.

Trump, Russia and a Shadowy Business Partnership

It has been clearly established as fact that without the Deutsche Bank and the Bayrock Group, Trump would not have survived a complete economic meltdown, meaning all his successes are probably not due to his own effort but the effort of others that helped him. His own incompetence in business would have won had they not gotten involved.

It is difficult to not believe that for all the help he got from these Russian backed institutions that something was not asked of him in return.

Oh and by the way, all of this is fact (not opinion).

As such, do not talk to me about his successes and his ability. He has proven the opposite.

As far as you mentioning his successes with the Apprentice, he was hired to do those. It was not his idea or his show. There is no doubt that Trump is an accomplished con artist. As such, his hiring by NBC was a stroke of genius BY NBC as he was the perfect person for the role. Don't give him any credit for it, He was just being who he has always been.....an accomplished scam artist. No extra effort, knowledge, or expertise was needed.

As far as his Real Estate successes. This true meme says it all:



Is this the kind of a man you want in charge of a country? A man that only cares about himself and screws everyone else?

Ditto back at you with this statement: "I've explained a dozen things to you; you haven't "got it" yet. I'm always disappointed when people who appear to have promise can't get it together"

 

That is hilarious. You mean to tell me that all your decisions are based on the Constitution? When you decide to get married, your decision is based on the Constitution? When you decide to who to have as your friend and who not, it is based on the Constitution? When you decide to go to either a metal rock band concert or to see someone like Elton John, it is based on the Constitution? When you decide to get this job or that job, you think of the Constitution?

All your likes and dislikes are based on the Constitution?

Remember, I am talking about your emotions for Trump, not about what is legal.

Your response to my post is totally ridiculous.

 

Rod, what the hell do you know about constitutional law? What law degree do you have? And what makes you an expert on congressional procedures?

Anyone crying about how unconstitutional the January 6th Committee is doesn't have a clue.

 

Shouldn't the voters decide?

 

Sure it is. Democrats have been attacking our democracy in a number of ways, including trying to suppress the votes of the 2024 election of those who would vote for Trump and forming a kangaroo committee to round up political adversaries and jail them on sham or minor charges.

 

Why wouldn't I? Doesn't change the fact that mitch thought he was guilty.

 

NO. I'm a "get the job done right man." Trump had the ability, the right ideas, the dedication and the guts to go for it. I have absolutely no doubt he was a tough guy to do business with, and I assure you that especially in New York he would have been fighting users and abusers every inch of the way. Being sued doesn't always mean you won't pay your bills- it often means you've done business with a cheater. The last time I was sued, a roofing contractor ignored the contract specification and put the wrong material on a building; said it was still a good roof, shouldn't matter. I offered to pay him 50% and fix it myself just to get rid of him, but he said hell no. Threatened to sue- I said hop to it. So we went to trial. It wound up costing him four times what he sued for, and taking me two years to collect the damages- and my lawyers bill was twice what it would have cost me to walk away in the first place. That kind of crap goes with the territory in development, construction, real estate areas. Not much of a problem if you run a hot dog stand.
I think you're talking way out of your league here.

Trump promised to build a wall- and did about everything possible to keep that promise, and you damn well know it. The dems fought tooth and nail to block not only the wall, but everything he promised to do- and you know that too. It was a dem vendetta- against the concept of a greater nation. So when you trash Trump, you are just trying to finish the job, for some twisted reason. Won't work- because the issue isn't Trump, the man, and never was. It's the message he brought; the idea we rebuild the greatness of the nation, and I'm with that 100% right now. And you can't do that without doing good for everybody.

I can see now that you obviously hate that idea too. You're stuck in the TDS, a post turtle situation. Too bad. You can't change the turtles mind. You're stuck; were done.

 

All the pro-Trumpers offer are excuses for his behavior.

I do not know what country you are from but here in the U.S. we have been known for being the prime example of Democracy and being a con artist is the exact opposite of that. I agree with you that Trump is a tough guy but being tough without having morals, ethics, principles, and humanity make you a thug, who is tough but does no good, he just imposes his will on others. Just in case you don't know what being a "thug" means, perhaps the word "bully" will help you understand what that means,

Teddy Roosevelt and Ulysses Grant were both "tough guys". Teddy Roosevelt was shot in 1912 outside of his hotel but went on to deliver a speech that night anyway – with the bullet still inside him!. Ulysses Grant led American troops to a victory in the Civil War. As he was dying from throat cancer and could no longer speak, Grant ground out his famed memoir to keep his wife out of poverty after he passed.

What did Trump do? Trump made up an injury to his toe to avoid Vietnam service (Trump lawyer testifies). Trump avoided the draft a total of 5 times.

Oh yeah, real tough guy!

and to finish it off:



This is the man you believe can represent what made the U.S. great?

TDS? Absolutely (True Devoted Spokesperson for truth and fact)

 

I voted against the egotistical a**h*** the first time.

I don't comprehend how he got the Republican nomination in 2015. There must be something wrong with them.

Not that Hillary is any prize. I just don't think that she is abysmally stupid.

 

Oh yes she is, stupid. You don’t viciously label half of Trumps electorate names and then expect to be forgiven. Plus, she ran a lazy campaign. Not smart, common sense wise at all.

 

You missed the bit about him being turned down for a Casino licence in Sydney Australia because he had “close ties with the Mafia”

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...0-years-ago-rejected-due-to-mafia-connections

He was too crooked for Sydney Aus!

 

As opposed to Trump saying they are gullible?

 

I don't think so. He failed during his first term and was voted out.
If you've thrown something away, don't pick it out of the trash anymore.
Trump hasn't improved. He's gotten worse!

I feel sorry for the Republican Party having to put up with such a weird guy!

 

Here we go again. Mitch didn't vote guilty.

 

Which doesn't change the fact that mitch thought he was guilty and said so.

 

Lucky-
The limits of any man is not what they think, but how they think. The how is the mechanism that dictates the what; it is a tool like a level or scale that dictates your perceptions of a value- and if that tool is not accurate, everything it tells you is so will reflect the flaws of the tool... and you will not question it. And you will project the flaws of that tool in all your decisions, on everything around- family, friends, neighbors, politicians, so it will control your relationships, your actions- your life. It applies to all of us.
That projection of flaws is not an honorable thing to do, it is unfortunately the best that person is able to do, no matter how pitiful- and they will insist it is reasonable. Not understanding how we have done this to ourselves, we usually blame others for our flawed perceptions.

IF people- both individuals and groups of any size, so let's say Americans, as a group- were as smart as they think they are, the tool would be accurately set, perceptions would be accurate, the resulting decisions would be accurate. The nation would be running like a swiss watch, and so would most of it's people. The reasons it's not- is that far too many of us are limited with those flawed tools, and cannot think better- and have not a clue as to why or have any idea of how to correct it. And it's not Trump or any particular person or policy influence that limits you. The person limiting HOW you think- IS you. The only person who can change how you think- IS you. That's not a personal statement, it applies to all of us. But how it applies to you is your own personal life challenge. The barrier keeping you from the state of understanding that would give you power over your own destiny- and the ability to see that is one you have built for yourself, with the help of a society where most have the same problem. If you want to be free of that, you can- it's the primary challenge of life. Indeed the greatest challenge- and with the greatest of rewards.

You think of yourself as lucky; but luck is a random accident, not the result of comprehension, of mastery of self, or having even a shred of the ability to control your own destiny. That is a power within every human being- IF you can find it. IF you will recognize it as the tool that is. IF you will accept it and use it... and that requires putting down the tool you use now, the one that limits your perception, your logic, your reasoning ability- and controls, literally limits, what you can think. Such a man is not really free; his mind voluntarily lives in a cell that he built around himself. He is not lucky to be there.

If you ever decide you want to leave that place, I can tell you how.

 

I have to say- stupid is not the right word.
Al Capone was certainly not stupid, he ran an extensive criminal empire and was never convicted of related crimes; they finally gave up and resorted to jailing him on tax evasion.
Ever read the book, "Clinton Cash"?

 

Mitch didn't vote guilty, just as Senate Democrats didn't vote to impeach Bill Clinton. Do you agree with that?

 

Don't agree with mitch, do agree with dems.

 

How did I know you were going to say that?

 

I disagree. To forget about it means nothing will change. To demand accurate and fair elections is one more institution under attack by democrats.
There is a fight for no other reason than each rule change creates an advantage or disadvantage for one side or the other. That is proof positive of corruption.

 

@ToughTalk Trump is now saying in interviews that the US and Ukraine practically FORCED Russia to invade. Yet more evidence that your theories about Trump and Ukraine/Russia are complete bullshit. He hasn't changed his tune. He still defends Russia. Just like he did the last time they invaded Ukraine.

 

He's attacking the currently leadership is what he's doing. "I would have handled things differently so that Russia wouldn't have attacked"

But the idea that you believe he was on Russia's side with Russia's interests? Sorry. There are far too many public statements and actions that work against that narrative. You need to do better then "oh but he called Putin smart!" or "he wanted to build hotels in Russia!"

 

Wow, what an absolute deflection of the topic, which is Trump's ability to run the country.

Since you seem to consider yourself a scholar and teacher, I have to admit that you have learned the lesson well as far as evading a question you have no answer for. It is, as Wikipedia says, "shooting the messenger" ("Shooting the messenger" is a metaphoric phrase used to describe the act of blaming the bearer of bad news.Until the advent of modern telecommunication, messages were usually delivered by human envoys. For example, in war, a messenger would be sent from one camp to another. If the message was unfitting, the receiver might blame the messenger for such bad news and take their anger out on them).

Bottom line is that I have presented a solid case for Trump not becoming the leader of the U.S. again and you are running away and trying to turn the tables and blaming me for my "perception of value". as if I could not possible determine the value that Trump brings to the table.

One thing I have "learned" from doing research is that Trump has done nothing of value for anyone else but himself. Charitable donations? He has "reported" $130 million in chart donations. Nonetheless, almost all of that came with strings attached that were of personal benefit to him.

His charitable foundation was found to be a scam

Donald J. Trump Pays Court-Ordered $2 Million For Illegally Using Trump Foundation Funds

and it had to be closed down:

Donald Trump's troubled charity foundation to shut down

In addition and comparitively to Trump's reported $130 million, Warren Buffet has donated $46 Billion and Bill Gates has donated $39 billion, and guess what? No strings attached!!!!

So when you say that I need to improve my perception, my logic, my reasoning ability, I think you might be looking in the mirror about yourself and not listening to yourself. It is you that has to improve your perception, logic and reasoning ability.

The reality of life is that no matter what any of us do, we are all vulnerable to power, money, and injustice being done.............no matter how much we study and improve our own perception, logic, and ability. This means that the first thing we need to do is determine who has the power, money and is unjust and make it known to everyone so that person has less power than he wants to yield.

Evidently, that is a lesson YOU have not learned given the responses you have given to me.

Trump is a dangerous individual that can hurt all or any of us if he wants to and we have no control over it. He needs to be exposed so that we can all be safer and better off.

Back at ya, awaiting another nonsensical post of yours., teacher.

by the way, consider this meme. It is about blind people that can't see the elephant in the room

 

You mean that fighting for what is stated in the Constitution or what has been found to be false in the courts of law means you are corrupt?