With 'friends' like these, who needs enemies?

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  1. cerberus

    cerberus Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    "Brussels has started to exclude Britain and UK companies from sensitive future contracts on the project ahead of Brexit, and has said that Britain will be able to continue to use Galileo's open signal but its military could be denied access to the encrypted version.

    A previous review estimated that a failure of navigation satellite service could cost the UK economy £1billion a day, because of the critical role it plays in infrastructure including defence, emergency, business and air traffic control.

    The Government confirmed yesterday it would invest £92million from its £3billion "Brexit readiness fund" to explore designing and developing a potential UK programme over 18 months."

    The answer is so simple - refuse to pay the £40b divorce bill unless they agree to maintain the status quo. They'll cave in before you can say 'Brexit means Brexit'! Then still refuse to pay it as punishment for their attempt at blackmailing us. That's what Nigel would do?

    https://www.express.co.uk/news/poli...resa-may-galileo-alternative-eu-brexit-latest
     
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    Comically it's us that makes the satellites.
    They don't have the technical capability to lock us out.
    Lol.

    Nor can they operate them without our military bases abroad.

    Basically this is another ROFl attack by the EU.
    They have threatened our military capability, so now we can't share it with them.

    If the EU gets any "divorce payment" at all, treason charges need be brought.
    Too much traitors. Purging is required and an awareness that being one will result in stiff consequences.
     
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  3. The Scotsman

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    yup...made in Surrey...world leaders in microsats
    Gallileo is the best of 90s tech..... since it took the EU 2 decades to decide on the working parameters and systems.
    New ones will be the size of a small fridge with way better capability...and cheaper.
     
  4. cerberus

    cerberus Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Notice how, as soon as May threatens the probability of a hard Brexit, they panic and start making all kinds of fudges, er I mean 'compromises'? If she'd been more assertive and leader-like from the start, it would have been all done and dusted 18 bloody months ago. What an effing monumental pigs ear she's made of it! 'Divorce settlement'? Not a penny, and they'll all blame Barnier!
     
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    The EU need to make the UK an example. I think some people in the EU want to provoke artificially an economic crisis to keep the other countries in line.
     
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    cerberus Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Exactly, vindictive bureaucrats are the worst kind of bullies. And I think Italy will be the next one to drop out.
     
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    That's an interesting thought..."example"...why would they need to make an "example" of a democratic process entered into by a free people taken in a free and open vote conducted in a legal fasion? It makes you wonder about the thought processes of those thinking that an "example" was neccessary to those within the EU?
     
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    Economy is only a small part of the whole equation. It could be that the "example" was to stop others thinking differently about their own countries and their own national desires and their own futures....there is a whole cottage industry of "experts" wittering on about "economic consequences" and yet that is only a fraction of the what the EU is about. If it was only about economics then why the need for supra-national political and social and legal and military integration amongst other things? At what point does it stop? Who decides what is the right course...
     
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    "MICHEL Barnier dramatically raised hopes of Brexit deal on Wednesday by conceding at last that the bloc is ready to offer Britain a unique partnership. In remarks that triggered a surge in the pound against the euro and the US dollar, the chief EU Brexit negotiator accepted the UK could have an unprecedented relationship covering trade and security unlike the links with any other non-member nation."

    See what I mean? And there's more to it than making a generous compromise - they're ******** themselves by the thought of not getting their greedy bureaucratic mitts on that 40billion euro divorce payment. If May does pay it she'll finish the Conservative Party for decades to come.

    Forgot link: https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1010352/Brexit-news-michel-barnier-brexit-deal-uk-eu-news
     
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    Because the EU is a mafia, and if some people want to leave their "protection", it can be nasty for them.
    The EU by it's nature tend to be few democractic and more burocratic.
    The EU parliamant isn't that much important, it's mostly the commission that decide of things.
     
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    In short, the EU is Bureaucrat Heaven.
     
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    Brexit is a two sided thing.

    The UK voted as a whole made up of 51% to my 49% in Croydon (which voted like me and 49%).
    Nonetheless, we can't vote for Brexit, and cry when the EU cut us out, since we're cutting out.
     
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    I see a correlation between all these trips around the world from the EU to Asia to Africa and whispers from Donald Trump.
    I hear these in the British media/my media, including that announcement of our African investments to boost their economies, and I read this thread about the EU kicking the UK out of EU lead European things like the space program.

    Don't you get that the EU is cutting the UK out at the same time as the UK looking else where for new deals and stuff?
    Don't you get that? Wake up man.
     
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    The UK kicked itself out of all the EU programs. Brexit means Brexit!
     
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    The UK voted out because of stuff like this
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    Because of lies?
     
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    Yes, lies like "the EU is a trade treaty".
    Lies like "The EU is democratic"
    Lies like "The EU has brought peace to Europe"
    Lies like "The economy will be destroyed if we leave"
    Lies like "We will reduce immigration to 10's of thousands."
    Lies like "We voted to join the EU".

    Yup, a lot of lies involved in our leaving.

    Your loss.

    That's one EU program that is now a UK program.
    We could have let you stay in, but you are sulking.
     
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    Watch Turkey join the EU.
     
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    Watch how long it takes Turkey to join the EU and recognise the length of time it is going to take us to negotiate a "new deal".
     
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    Nobody wants Turkey in the EU and therefore it takes long but the EU has been ready to negotiate since the referendum but the UK doesn't get its **** settled.
     
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    There are thousands who are making a lot of money out of this farce, so the longer they can drag it out, the more money they'll make. QED.
     
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    BDS.
    Brexit disorder syndrome.

    We already negotiated with the EU before the referendum, the result of that negotiation is what was voted on.
    We respectfully declined it.

    We are just doing Article 50 to humor the EU.
    It's theatre.
    A two year transition period in which we are supposed to see the error of our ways and then not leave.

    BDS.
    Those who lost the vote are all hoping to remain in charge, but they aren't.
    It really did happen and they really did lose.

    What we are seeing here is the beginning of their campaign to get back in.
    Should take a few decades. Lol.


    When and if the EU is ever ready to negotiate further, it will speak with Nigel Farage (Britler) our democratically elected head representative to the EU.
    As yet it hasn't been willing to. They don't really get democracy. Lol.
    It's inconvenient to them.
     
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    cerberus Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I don't think they ever will! Bit like the US Dems will never accept The Donald is their POTUS?
     
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    And you expect the EU to offer you a better a deal after the Brexit than being a member? The EU has stated clear their negotiation position but your government still hasn't got a clue what to do.

    That's a UK problem, send Nigel and the EU will talk to him.
     
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    Tory in-fighting guarantees a cretinous British approach.
     

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