With Scalia gone it is likely the pro life movement goes with him

Discussion in 'Abortion' started by Vegas giants, Feb 14, 2016.

  1. democrack

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    Chuck Schumer Agrees With Mitch McConnell That Obama Should Not Get Another Supreme Court Nomination
    http://www.redstate.com/streiff/201...l-obama-get-another-supreme-court-nomination/
    Flashback: In 2007, Schumer Called For Blocking All Bush ...
    www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3397050/posts
    http://cnsnews.com/news/article/eri...ld-not-confirm-any-bush-nominee-supreme-court
    Schumer in '07: 'We Should Not Confirm Any Bush Nominee to the Supreme Court'
    http://www.examiner.com/article/schumer-vs-schumer-supreme-court-edition
     
  2. FoxHastings

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    To get back ON TOPIC....it doesn't matter who gets the position....RvW will not be overturned.......
     
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    Who is he and why should I care what he thinks?

    Was it okay when Regan nominated someone to the SC in the last year of his presidency?
     
  4. FoxHastings

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    Shhhh, the Repubs are desperately trying to pretend that never happened....:roflol:
     
  5. Vegas giants

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    EVER. That is certain
     
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    True, but that will not stop the continued assault on abortion.

    Note that Texas has passed laws that would decrease the number of sites doing abortions from 40 to 10 - making abortion far less available.

    Today, that law is headed for acceptance by the SC.

    And, that is only one form of assault going on today.


    So, suggesting the RvW issue is decided is pretty much nonsense.

    If we want RvW, we will need to fight for it - in legislation and in the courts.
     
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    I hope they do too. Obama is more likely to pick a moderate to firm up the appointment.

    But if the republican block him and show themselves for the obstructionist that they are, they'll help further ensure a Democratic president in November by mobilizing democratic voters.

    High voter turnout is NEVER good for republicans and motivated Democratic voters are even worse because they're amazing at ground game once they're motivated.

    The next Democratic president can then elect a REAL progressive liberal for the SC.

    I also love how much attention this is taking away from the moronic republican candidates trying to get air time.

    Republicans are too-short sighted to understand what they're doing. All of their antics and every one of them has blown up in their faces...so will this one.
     
  8. FoxHastings

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    Oh, no, the fight to take away women's rights by Republicans does continue.

    Hundreds of Big Government laws against women have been proposed by Republicans.

    They want to stop abortion(THAT will never happen) but also want to stop funding poor children....it's the fetus they worship....not actual people.
     
  9. WillReadmore

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    Well, TX has 26M people and are highly likely to win the court case that will leave them with 10 locations for abortion (down from 40). As a national average, that's heading into the 2 per state range. And, they're continuing to head DOWN from there.

    I would contend that means that those who have limited ability to travel will already have no RvW rights - regardless of the constitution.

    So, while it may be constitutional, the right wing is winning the war on making abortion unavailable - which is the same thing.
     
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    Oh , but it does matter !
     
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    Do you even know what you are talking about , you seem very confused .
     
  12. FoxHastings

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    Abortion has always existed and will continue to exist despite psycho misogynists etching away at women's rights as human beings.

    If women can't get to someone to give them an abortion someone will come to them...yes, it will be harder for poor women which is what the filth called Republicans want .....they enjoy making women's lives harder so they can then castigate them for having babies and laugh at how they closed down clinics where those women could've got birth control.

    "Filth" ? No, there are no words bad enough for these disturbed people.....
     
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    EXCELLENT point!!!!


    ETA: It could also turn the undecided votes away from the repubs, giving the dems even more votes.
     
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    It was decided 42 years ago. Most Americans don't think Roe v Wade should be overturned.
     
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    Still wrong I'm afraid.

    suggest you brush up on 2nd Amendment and equal protection clause.
     
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    Well that is your take, my take is that if Obama puts his nominee into the supreme court our country will move to the far left for the conceivable future, so the play is this: Bet big that the next president will be a Republican, stonewall this nomination, let the next president pick the replacement and pick another one when some of the old liberal judges joins Scalia....
     
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    I agree but legally, it could be overturned on a constitutional basis.

    - - - Updated - - -

    Not my problem you are not aware of the constitutional problems with R v W.
     
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    Not my problem that you are not aware of your own constitution, btw you should actually learn to read what is written not what you want it to say
     
  19. WillReadmore

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    It would be illegal in Texas for a doctor to cross the state in order to give an abortion. Doctors are required to have admitting rights at a nearby hospital, and that just isn't going to happen when the site is remote from where the doctor practices.

    Plus, in cases of incest and other forms of duress it can be beyond the means of the individual to travel for this procedure.

    Basically, in most of Texas women will be pretty much SOL unless they have the required dollars and at least minimal support for travel.

    And, yes, the rate of growth of poor families is going to be rising, leaving families and single women even more destitute.
     
  20. FoxHastings

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    Uh, it doesn't take a doctor to do an abortion but doctors may do abortions.

    If abortion were illegal why would you be talking about admitting rights and crossing state lines..

    IF abortion were illegal do you think crossing a state line would matter???

    You mention pregnancy from incest....do you support an 11 year old girl being forced to have her Dad's/brother's/ uncle's/grandfather's baby..? REPUBLICANS DO!

    People capable of performing abortions will find those who need them....which is why making abortion illegal will not stop abortions..

    but ,yes, making abortion illegal will make things harder for women which is the Republican's only goal...what filth.


    My hope is that young women wake up and smell their rights being obliterated by psychopaths and start voting for the party that believes even women have rights...
     
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    You missed my argument.

    I'm saying that there will be limitations that will essentially make abortion UNAVAILABLE. That's not the same thing as illegal.

    And, abortion IS a medical procedure, and there ARE possible serious medical ramifications, so suggesting that the law will allow those who are not doctors to perform abortions legally is highly unlikely.

    Your last two lines I agree with. Republicans are definitely working to make it impossible for women to have abortions. The fact that they can't just make them all illegal is only a speed bump.

    Right now, it looks like all GOP primary candidates are in favor of blocking women on a range of issues, so it would seem this is effectively an issue of which party to support.
     
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    Not after President Obama makes his appointment. :D
     
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    Won't happen unless the current batch of spineless Republicans turn over which is a possibility then if that does happen, what Jefferson and Scalia feared will come true, Judicial Supremacy will rule the land instead of the Constitution.
     
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    ""And, abortion IS a medical procedure, and there ARE possible serious medical ramifications, so suggesting that the law will allow those who are not doctors to perform abortions legally is highly unlikely"""


    IF abortion was made illegal OR unavailable (which is pretty much the same thing) it wouldn't necessarily have to be doctors who did the abortions.
     
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    The death of Scalia will have no effect on the people trying to ban abortion....they will continue to try regardless of the impossibility. We are not dealing with the brightest bulbs in the box.
     

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