woman charged with attempted murder in failed 'abortion'

The OP title is straight from the article including punctuation. She took a hanger to her unborn fetus of 24 weeks, and the result was a baby who has serious and life long disabilitieshttp://www.cbsnews.com/news/tennessee-woman-charged-with-attempted-murder-in-failed-abortion/

"Her boyfriend took her to the hospital where doctors delivered a 24-week-old baby weighing just 1.5 pounds. Doctors told investigators the child will need medical support for the rest of his life because of the injuries he sustained.

WTVF reports that authorities say the baby had damage to the lungs, eyes, and heart.

"Those injuries will affect this child for the rest of his life, all caused at the hands of his own mother," Sgt. Evans told WTVF."

Mostly I want to know what kind of penalties are appropriate, if the facts are as proven and if this woman is seen as mentally competent? One wonders if she knew the details of the trimester test, and exactly when that coat-hanger trick turned her into a murderer?

 

An obvious mental health case........

 

Its not obvious to me, but it is of course possible.

 

Why didn't she just get an abortion?

 

It was too late for a legal abortion. We don't know why she waited.

 

Well... such IS the nature of Evil.

What she did was attempt to take the life of an innocent... which is murder, just like every other abortion.

 

I wish this woman would have gone to have an abortion sooner so that poor child wouldn't have to exist in life with all those injuries as well as be used for political gains by the body controllers. The article wasn't specific on the medical implications of the injuries but if we're talking about a child that will have to be hooked up medical devices to survive the entire time, the humane thing to do would have been to end it's suffering. If that's the case, shame on those who put their idea of the selective sanctity of life over the existence of a person likely in pain with no real expectation for quality of life.

I don't agree with how this woman tried to do what she was doing, because the end result can easily end up with what occurred. The importance of trained medical personal has been highlighted here not just to protect the health of the mother, but to prevent something like this from happening to a child that will then be born. Urge your government officials to stop restricting access to women's health care if you actually want to prevent things like this. Double-down on the body controlling if you don't actually care and want to make this about women who get abortions at all.

 

It isn't ?! A woman takes a hanger to herself instead of getting an abortion and you don't think there a mental health issue?
Abortion is legal....why didn't she get one? Did some self-righteous jerk keep her from getting one?

Of course there's the possibility that scumbag Republicans shut down her nearest clinic and she couldn't get to it or have the money for it.

But if she was at 24 weeks and then decided to use a hanger there is more than likely a mental health issue...

 

Good post and I agree that the keeping that child alive was horribly wrong, much worse than any abortion....it will pay for the mother's mistake...

 

So you agree that keeping that child alive was wrong... ?

Fascinatin'...

Where do you come down on her choosing to engage in sexual intercourse, despite being unprepared to raise a child?

Put another way, do you agree that she should have abstained from sexual intercourse until such time that she was prepared to raise the life that sexual intercourse is specifically designed to conceive?

 

Of course not.....


Only people who have abnormally low or non-existent sex drives would advise not having sex.....NORMAL people have sex......but if you want to stand on a street corner and screech at people to not have sex, go right ahead

 

So you want to claim a RIGHT, which you also claim requires no responsibility on the part of the individual, whatsoever, to sustain?

Well... now that IS something.

Tell me, what other rights do you claim require NO RESPONSIBILITY on the part of the claimant?

(Reader, you'll want to pay close attention here... as the argument claiming the RIGHT to murder one's pre-born child is about to be exposed as a delusion, born of perverse reasoning. )

 

Nope, no one has the right to murder their unborn....but having an abortion is PERFECTLY LEGAL and remains legal and it's no delusion



And in the post of mine you quoted I didn't claim any right but you rambled wildly on and on about "rights"..... you are as confused here as where you think I posted the OP....

 

Link, please...

 

Not for very long. Just watch.

This is absolutely correct and allowed entirely by Arkansas Act 301.
The forced District Court injunction against Arkansas Act 301 enforcement is currently VERY before SCOTUS.
Not just sorta before the Court but VERY!
Curtis J. Neeley, Jr., Applicant v. Louis Jerry Edwards, et al., (15A368)
Filed Sep 8, 2015. Granted Sept 15, 2015 forcing AR AG to seek certiorari.

Joseph M. Beck, in His Official Capacity as Chairperson of the Arkansas State Medical Board, et al., Petitioners v. Louis Jerry Edwards, et al. , (15-448)
Filed Oct 9, 2015. Response requested Nov 10, 2015. Response filed Dec 9, 2015.
Petition for Certiorari, Amicus in Support, Response in Opposition Free links to PDFs filed.

Curtis J. Neeley, Jr., Petitioner v. Louis Jerry Edwards, et al., (15-7059)
Filed Nov 13, 2015 Distributed for Conference Jan 8, 2016
PDFs filed linked to the titles above. SCOTUS docket listing linked to case no.

. . . . A sperm cell and egg cell (ovum) unite and form a zygote that develops into a blastocyst about five days after fertilized. A blastocyst and an embryo are still nourished by the female egg yolk and are all "alive". A human life has not yet begun and these parts of the female may be frozen for later use. e.g. IVF
Freezing live humans is ALWAYS FATAL.

. . . . Sorry women; but ALL abortionists and many women are trying to ignore the dignity of a human fetus or are hoping SCOTUS will become wholly dishonorable. Hint; THEY WON'T as will be obvious to EVERYONE else very soon.
. . . . A fetus develops into a "born person" and is usually viable unless killed by an assassin masquerading as a doctor.
. . . . Organ genesis is complete for a fetus and this mini-human should be given the sanctity or dignity of human life. The HUMAN DIGNITY of a fetus SHALL be recognized at 12-weeks after Arkansas Act 301 is allowed and fetal heartbeats are detected.
. . . . The HUMAN DIGNITY of a fetus SHALL be recognized at 12-weeks after Arkansas Act 301 is allowed. Arkansas Act 301 does not prohibit pregnant females from ANYTHING! A pregnant female may already be charged for killing a fetus or wounding per the OP. Arkansas Act 301 only ensures after 12-weeks pass and a heartbeat is detected the following is true.
VERY SOON in Arkansas and then nationwide; No doctor may assassinate a fetus and disguise this MURDER as healthcare, like was done dishonorably over a decade after Casey.
This woman of the OP should be punished as a felon for attempted murder and spend most of the rest of her reproductive life in prison "loving" only fresh vegetables.

It is NOT mysterious about when human lives begin anymore.
Exactly when human lives begin will always be a mystery.

 

I am watching. I will watch as Texas' TRAP law is shredded, and I will watch as SCOTUS ignores the already aborted Act 301.

 

Reader, understand that the above cited contributor is asking for a link regarding the NAZI establishing laws to provide for the eradication of the Jews.

Personally... I'd ban any contributor that was sufficiently ignorant of world history to need a link for that, but, no one asks me... .

Here's your link:

https://fcit.usf.edu/holocaust/timeline/TEXTLINE.HTM

Here's what it says:

HOLOCAUST TIME LINE 1933-1945

The following time line has been compiled from a variety of sources including the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum in Washington, D.C., South Carolina Voices: Lessons from the Holocaust, and others.

1933
January 30 Adolf Hitler is appointed chancellor of Germany.
February 28 The German government takes away freedom of speech, assembly, press, and freedom from invasion of privacy and from house search without warrant.
March 4 Franklin D. Roosevelt is inaugurated President of the United States.
March 20 The first concentration camp is established in Nazi Germany at Dachau. The first prisoners are political opponents.
April 1 A nationwide boycott of Jewish-owned businesses in Germany is carried out under Nazi leadership.
April 7 Jews are barred from government service; Jewish civil servants, including University professors and school teachers, are fired from their positions.
April 25 The law against "overcrowding in German schools and universities" is adopted, restricting the number of Jewish children allowed to attend. Children of war veterans and those with one non-Jewish parent are initially exempted.
May 10 Books by Jews and opponents of Nazism are burned publicly.
July 14 Laws are passed in Germany that permit the forced sterilization of Gypsies, the mentally and physically disabled, African-Germans, and others considered "inferior" or "unfit."
October 19 Germany withdraws from the League of Nations.
1933-1935 In all German schools it is officially taught that "non-Aryans" are racially inferior. Jewish children are prohibited from participating in "Aryan" sports clubs, school orchestras, and other extracurricular activities. Jewish children are banned from playgrounds, swimming pools, and parks in many German cities and towns.
1934
August 3 Adolph Hitler declares himself president and chancellor of the Third Reich after the death of Paul von Hindenburg.
October First major wave of arrests of homosexuals occurs throughout Germany, continuing into November.
1935
January 13 The Saar region is annexed by Germany.
March 16 Hitler violates the Versailles Treaty by renewing the compulsory military draft.
April Jehovah's Witnesses are banned from all civil service jobs and are arrested throughout Germany.
May "No Jews" signs and notices are posted outside German towns and villages, and outside shops and restaurants.
May 21 Jews are prohibited from serving in the German armed forces.
September 15 The Nuremberg Laws deprive German Jews of their citizenship.
1936
March 3 Jewish doctors are no longer permitted to practice in government institutions in Germany.
March 7 Hitler's army invades the Rhineland.
July 12 The first German Gypsies are arrested and deported to Dachau concentration camp.
August 1-16 The Olympic Games take place in Berlin. Anti-Jewish signs (i.e., "Jews Not Welcome") are removed until the Games are completed.
October 15 The Ministry of Science and Education prohibits teaching by "non-Aryans" in public schools and bans private instruction by Jewish teachers.
1937
July 2 Further restrictions are imposed on the number of Jewish students attending German schools.
July 16 Buchenwald concentration camp opens.
November 16 Jews can obtain passports for travel outside of Germany only in special cases.
1938
March 13 Germany annexes Austria.
May 13 The German government passes a decree requiring the registration of all Gypsies without a fixed address living in Austria; by June 1938, all Gypsy children above the age of 14 have to be fingerprinted. This is a central part of the growing racial definition of Gypsies as "criminally asocial."
July 6-15 Representatives from thirty-two countries meet at Evian, France, to discuss refugee policies. Most of the countries refuse to let in more Jewish refugees.
July 23 The German government announces Jews must carry identification cards.
November 7 An attempt is made by Herschel Grynzpan to assassinate a German diplomat in Paris.
November 9-10 Kristallnacht ("Night of Broken Glass"): Nazi organized nation-wide pogroms result in the burning of hundreds of synagogues; the looting and destruction of many Jewish homes, schools, and community offices; vandalism; and the looting of 7,500 Jewish stores. Many Jews are beaten, and more than 90 are killed. Thirty-thousand Jewish men are arrested and imprisoned in concentration camps. Several thousand Jewish women are arrested and sent to local jails. This is followed by a punitive fine to be paid by the Jewish community for the damages done to their businesses and the accelerated "Aryanization" of Jewish businesses.
November 12 German Jews are ordered to pay one billion Reichsmarks in reparations for damages of Kristallinacht.
November 15 All Jewish children are expelled from German schools and can attend only separate Jewish schools.
December 2-3 Decrees ban Jews from public streets on certain days; Jews are forbidden drivers' licenses and car registrations.
December 3 Jews must sell their businesses and real estate and hand over their securities and jewelry to the government at artificially low prices.
December 8 Jews may no longer attend universities as teachers and/or students.
1939
March 15 Germany invades and occupies Czechoslovakia.
June Cuba and the United States refuse to accept Jewish refugees aboard the ship S.S. St. Louis, which is forced to return to Europe.
June 5 Two-thousand Gypsy males above the age of 16 are arrested in Burgenland Province (formerly Austria) and sent to Dachau and Buchenwald concentration camps; 1,000 Gypsy girls and women above the age of 15 are arrested and sent to the Ravensbruck concentration camp.
August 23 Soviet-German Non-aggression Pact signed.
September 1 The German army invades Poland and World War II begins.
September 23 Jews are forced to turn in radios, cameras, and other electric objects to the police. Jews receive more restrictive ration coupons than other Germans. They do not receive coupons for meat, milk, etc. Jews also receive fewer and more limited clothing ration cards than do Germans.
October Hitler extends powers to doctors to kill institutionalized mentally and physically disabled persons in the "euthanasia" program.
November 23 Germans force Jews in Poland to wear a yellow Star of David on their chests or a blue-and-white Star of David armband.
November 28 The first Polish ghetto is established.
1940
Spring The German army invades and defeats Denmark, Norway, Belgium, Luxembourg, the Netherlands, and France.
May 1-7 Approximately 164,000 Polish Jews are concentrated and imprisoned in the Lódz ghetto which is established and sealed off from the outside world.
May 20 A concentration camp is established at Auschwitz, Poland.
October 3 Anti-Jewish laws are passed by France's Vichy Government.
October The Warsaw ghetto is established.
November 15 The Warsaw ghetto is closed off with approximately 500,000 inhabitants.
November 20 Hungary, Romania, and Slovakia join the Axis Powers.
1941
March 22 Gypsy and African-German children are expelled from public schools.
March 24 The German army invades North Africa.
April 6 The German army invades Yugoslavia and Greece.
May 15 Romania passes law condemning adult Jews to forced labor.
June The French Vichy government revokes civil rights of French Jews in North Africa.
June 22 The German army invades the Soviet Union. The Einsatzgruppen, mobile killing squads, begin the mass murders of Jews, Gypsies, and Communist leaders.
September 1 German Jews above the age of six are forced to wear a yellow Star of David sewed on the left side of their clothes with the word "Jude" printed in black.
September 23 Soviet prisoners of war and Polish prisoners are killed in Nazi test of gas chambers at Auschwitz in occupied Poland.
September 28-29 Nearly 34,000 Jews are murdered by mobile killing squads at Babi Yar, near Kiev in the Ukraine.
October Construction begins on Birkenau, an addition to the Auschwitz camp. Birkenau includes a killing center which begins operations in early 1942.
October-November First group of German and Austrian Jews are deported to ghettos in eastern Europe.
November 5-9 Five thousand Gypsies are deported from labor and internment camps in Austria to the Lódz ghetto in Poland.
December 7 Japan attacks Pearl Harbor.
December 8 The Chelmno death camp opens near Lódz, Poland and the first gassing of victims in mobile gas vans occurs.
December 11 Germany declares war on the United States.
December-January Five thousand Austrian Gypsies from the Lódz ghetto are deported to the killing center at Chelmno where they are all killed in mobile gas vans.
1942
1942 Nazi "extermination" camps located in occupied Poland at Auschwitz, Birkenau, Treblinka, Sobibor, Belzec, and Majdanek-Lublin begins mass murder of Jews in gas chambers.
January 16 Jews in the Lódz ghetto are deported to the killing center at Chelmno.
January 20 Fifteen Nazi and government leaders meet at Wannsee, a section of Berlin, to discuss the "final solution to the Jewish question".
May 4-12 Approximately ten thousand Jews, who had arrived in the Lódz ghetto some six months earlier from Germany, Luxembourg, Vienna, and Prague, are deported to Chelmno. Their baggage is confiscated before they board the train.
June The German government closes all Jewish schools.
June 1 Treblinka death camp opens.
June 1 Jews in France and the Netherlands are required to wear identifying Stars of David.
July 28 Jewish fighting organizations established in the Warsaw ghetto.
September 5-12 Approximately fifteen thousand Jews in the Lódz ghetto are deported to Chelmno, mostly children under ten and individuals over sixty-five, but also others who are too weak or ill to work. By September 16, approximately fifty-five thousand Jews have been deported to the killing center at Chelmno.
October 4 All Jews in concentration camps in Germany are sent to death camp at Auschwitz.
December 1 A special internment camp for non-Jewish Polish youth is opened in Lódz.
1943
April 19-May, 16 Jews in the Warsaw ghetto initiate resistance to deportation by the Germans to the death camps.
March All Gypsies in Germany and Nazi occupied countries, with few exceptions, are arrested and deported to Auschwitz-Birkenau.
June The Nazis order all of the ghettos in Poland and the Soviet Union destroyed.
August 2 The inmates at Treblinka rebel.
Fall The Danish citizens smuggle most of the nation's Jews to neutral Sweden.
October 14 The inmates at Sobibor initiate an armed rebellion.
1944
January The War Refugee Board is established by President Franklin Roosevelt.
March The German army invades Hungary.
May 15 The Nazis begin deportation of Hungarian Jews. Over 430,000 Jews are sent to Auschwitz-Birkenau where most are gassed.
June 6 The Allied Powers invade Normandy.
July 20 German officers fail and are caught in an attempt to assassinate Hitler.
June 23-July 14 Seven thousand one hundred ninety-six Jews are deported from the Lódz ghetto to Chelmno where they are killed.
July 24 The Soviet Army liberates the Majdanek death camp.
October 7 The prisoners at Auschwitz-Birkenau rebel and blow up one crematorium.
1945
January 17 Nazis empty Auschwitz and start prisoners on "death marches" to Germany.
January 27 The Soviet army liberates Auschwitz.
April Troops from the United States liberate survivors from the Buchenwald and Dachau concentration camps.
April 30 Adolph Hitler commits suicide in his bunker in Berlin rather than be caught by the advancing Soviet army.
May 5 Troops from the United States liberate Mauthausen concentration camp.
May 7 Germany surrenders and war in Europe is ended.
November The war crimes tribunal is convened at Nuremberg, Germany.

Now... right there are the end, is where the Government of Germany had been erased and it's laws stripped away and those who participated in the legal persecution of individuals who were claimed to be an inconvenient threat to the culture, because of their genetic status, Charged, arrested, tried and executed for conflating legalities with morality.

 

We will BOTH watch as the TX TRAP law and all other TRAP laws are shredded as I recommended on page 14. See as (HTML, PDF)
The right to control autonomy is concrete and controlling constitutionally until another individual exists.

 

MOD EDIT - Rule 3/Reply to Deleted

If wishes were fishes...

Yes, the TRAP law will be overturned. No, SCOTUS will never take up Act 301. It's dead. Aborted. Flushed, even - and you have no legal standing in the case. Deal with it.

 

Whatever. I will not waste more time with you and regret wasting the time I have thus far. I have no legs so, of course, I have no standing. Ha.
If SCOTUS reads my petition, it will be granted and summarily be made an amicus.
If 15-448 is not granted then my petition is moot.

 

I like your sense of humour.

 

Why is her baby recognized as a human being ONLY IN THIS CASE?

 

Funny thing is, in all of what you posted and linked to, there is NO mention of forced abortions on Jews. Forced labor, yes. Concentration camps, yes. Mass executions, yes. Unspeakable horrors - YES.

But zero mention of forced abortions on Jewish women. So, I guess that link was a FAIL...