Women have a responsibility to more than themselves

Women have a responsibility to more than just themselves, you know.

Or do you think it's ok for a woman to heavily drink while she's pregnant?
(Do any of you know what Fetal Alcohol Syndrome is?)

Or do pro-choicers think it's all ok as long as she chooses to get an abortion before the scheduled delivery date... ???

 

You still have NO idea what Pro-Choice means...

 

Yeah not sure what FAS has to do with abortion, but alcohol affects the thyroid hormones and in return brain development, you should not drink any alcohol during pregnancy.

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/06/090610124426.htm

 

If you're going to give birth and bring that child into the world, you shouldn't drink because the effects of your drinking will saddle that child with unalterable consequences for it's entire life. I find it somewhat reprehensible if a mother drinks, smokes, or takes drugs while fully planning on giving birth for that reason alone.

I suppose if the mother gets an abortion after having done those things, it's a moot point. Why would the taking of the drugs and alcohol make the abortion any worse than it is already considered to be by pro-lifers?

 

Joakim, why don't you stop TYPING and go out and tell women they need to do what you tell them to do?

 

You cannot convince me that an occasional drink is harmful.

 

Maybe pregnant women should drink all they want, but get up on a soap box and speak out against it! That would be like you posting on this forum, but not taking any real actions to help your cause.

There is a difference between being sanctimonious and responsible.

 

"""""Women have a responsibility to more than just themselves, you know."""


No, they don't.

 

Presumably you are male.. are you also a virgin or have you had a vasectomy .. I would assume you have NO responsibility with regard to any future offspring.

 

For you not to be a hypocrite, then you would have to demand that men who have sex would be responsible to have every sperm
be perfect and free of any possible contaminant or preventable defect.

Are you in perfect health? Are you sure? Have you had your DNA checked to make sure you might not pass on any possible defects
that might result in an aborted fetus or less than perfect child?

 

It would be nice if the OP refrained from imposing his own appalling ignorance shortcomings on others in this forum.

Fetal Alcohol Syndrome was first recognized in 1973.

https://embryo.asu.edu/pages/discovery-fetal-alcohol-syndrome

It was all over the news at the time and every woman I have ever known has refrained from drinking while pregnant during the ensuing decades.

No, you are 100% wrong about woman and their responsibilities. Furthermore YOU don't get to dictate to them what their "responsibilities" might be.

Why do I get the distinct impression that the OP hears the term "butt out" on a regular basis IRL?

 

I wouldn't dream of it, after all a brick wall is a brick wall

 

I think it's up to each individual woman to decide for herself.

 

The concepts , women as individuals, women doing their own decision making, are not concepts Anti-Choicers understand....

 

Pro-choicer here.
I'm very against pregnant women drinking. Lots of damage can be done in the first 2 months before she knows she is pregnant. However, a single beer does not do much damage.

Yes, I think there is no problem if she gets an abortion.

As for what should be done if she carries it to term with fetal alcohol syndrome, that is a very interesting ethics question. Forced euthanasia of the baby? This is another reason to fund abortion, so women who don't want a kid will get one.

 

If the fetus has her consent to injure her during pregnancy then her drinking would constitute a breach in contract, if the fetus does not have her consent then she can do what ever she pleases.

 

Could she theoretically have a female circumcision performed on her fetus while it was still in the womb? I realize this seems like a completely unrealistic scenario, but just imagine for the sake of argument. You say the woman can do whatever she wants to her fetus, correct?

 

At what point does your imagination and disdain for other peoples freedoms and rights begin to temper?
I considered Donald Trumps ego to be excessive.....you give him a run for the money.

 

The real question should be why would a woman undergo such a procedure?

 

Misogyny run rampant....

 

If she not going to allow the fetus to come to term why should she worry about the effect of drinks or drugs on it?

 

A woman who wants to produce a baby should be educated and (if she does not have the resources) should be assisted in providing a healthy environment for the development of her unborn. One aspect of that is to avoid frequent heavy drinking.

A woman who is not ready for a baby (or who is not able to make healthy choices) should be allowed to get an abortion as soon as possible, so any drinking she does would be moot.

A woman does not have a responsibility to anybody else unless she chooses to take on the responsibility to care for the potential baby that is growing inside her womb.

 

If you plan to abort it, you can drink all you want, and better abort it.

If you plan to keep it, you may not damage it.

 

Why, do you bother to worry about the damage you would cause another person if they were injuring you without consent?

 

Women who plan on having children, whether they plan to raise them or not, do have a moral obligation not to drink during pregnancy.

I don't support making this a legal obligation, however, as I can not justify giving the government that much authority over the lives of individuals.