Women who are against women's rights

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  1. krashsmith81

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    I have talked to some people, including some good friends, who happen to be women, and they both told me that they do not support the idea of a female president. The one thing these 2 women have in common is they are older women. Is this just the way they were raised? How can you be a woman and believe that a woman doesn't have what it takes to lead a nation? Isn't that like being an African American and trying to join a white supremacy group? I still respect these women, but I have no respect for their beliefs on this particular issue.
     
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    Were they talking about any female or just Hillary?
     
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    There nothing wrong with a female president per se. I would have voted for Margaret Thatcher. But Hillary? Hahahaha ...
     
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    Women have the same right to be stupid as men...that's equality...

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    """ do not support the idea of a female president."""..is a clue
     
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    By being aware of the inherent psychological limitations of their gender.

    No, because no such limitations can legitimately be associated with race.
     
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    I vote for the BEST candidate for president and Hillary is the antithesis of "the best candidate", gender be damned.
     
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    Most women understand that chicks can get weird sometimes. It's just an aspect of being a woman that most of us understand, and we have to accept that they are like that.

    Guys can get weird too, but we aren't innundated with hormones that drive us nuts. We have testosterone and that's quite a bit different from hormones that can force women to go completely off the rails.
     
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    Let me guess...you're one of those conservatives that wants to "bring America back' to a time 100 years ago
     
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    Why? Can you explain how Trump would be better?

    Because not voting for Clinton IS a vote for Trump
     
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    I think there are clear differences in behavior if you take a sample of men and women.... or is that just being sexist?
    The way men interact with friends vs women interacting with friends is a good example.

    I can't say if behavior and ways of thinking is good or bad in one sex or another, especially when it comes to various jobs like POTUS. I'm just saying there are differences, without judgement.
     
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    Hillary and her genitalia swing both ways and will screw every American. She's not on our side, and never will be.

    Desperate times when the libs are using the gender card I suppose.

    It's ironic how her (few) supporters think that all women are a monolithic group of robots that are to vote as they are told because they have the same reproductive organs as a candidate. No individual thought process is to be deemed appropriate.
     
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    Most women don't have what it takes to be leaders when really tough decisions need to be made, but there are some women who can, particularly the psychopathic ones.
     
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    Not wanting a female president is not being against women's rights, just a prejudice/preference. Not wanting a woman to have the right to run for and be elected president would be closer to being against women's rights.

    Personally, I can do without any more effeminate Presidents of either gender after Obama, a walking, complaining hissy fit who has brought way too much emotion, rationalization and division into the WH at the expense of reason. A balanced, rational woman would be fine though.
     
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    The left at times sees to have trouble understanding that different does not mean better or worse just different.
     
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    One should note that one need not be against women's rights in general to think that women shouldn't be president.
    That conclusion is a bit too simplistic.
     
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    Anyone married or in a long relationship can attest for women having bouts of irrational insanity. You haven't been around any women if you think otherwise. Sorry. Completely normal women can go psycho. With a guy they're usually always crazy because they're personality is nuts. Women have no rhyme or reason. It's life😄


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    "Just prejudice"?

    Newsflash...prejudice is pretty unacceptable except among right wing Republicans
     
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    What I don't understand is ... why you didn't ask them WHY. That is the key point here, not whether or not they support it.

    My guess is that they have no idea why, and are simply echoing male indoctrinated ideas about womens' place. They're basically fossils from the early 20thC, whether they were alive then or not. The old dears will be dead soon, so no matter.
     
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    You must mean those 'limitations' that deter us from testosterone fuelled tribal wars and d!ck measuring .... that kind of thing.
     
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    On its face maybe but people tend to take things out of context especially if they disagree. I'm asking for direct quotes.
     
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    This seems odd. Adding to the oddness is that after reading the responses people seem to be inserting their own opinions, rather than addressing your implicit question of how women could oppose "women's rights" or a female President. I'm going to do my best to answer the question I see you asking, though I'm just about certain my opining on why some women have such thoughts will result in my being criticized as if these were my own.

    1. The first thing I'd note is that plenty of women would be opposed to Hillary - not women in general. Note that people often express specific objection in general ways.
    2. This isn't like a black person wanting to enter a white supremacist group. One common case (you mentioned these were older women) might be that they believe in more traditional gender roles. That DOES NOT mean that they believe women are inferior - to even maintain that would require, for example, the belief that raising and rearing children is inherently inferior to working. I don't hold thay belief, and I doubt that those women held thay belief. The belief in traditional gender roles, while old fashioned, isn't a belief that one sex is better than the other.
    3. Though I have almost exclusively heard men make this claim, it is possible that they're indirectly referencing some studies. There have been many studies showing that women and men process information differently, suggesting that men are more logical or methodical, and women more intuitive. This use to be confirmed by seemingly every single subject done on the matter, but I've looked at it and from what I've seen recent studies seem to be conflicted.

    But of course, the best way to find out is to ask yourself. I'd encourage that - I'm sure you'll find that their explanations, taken at face value, are a farcry from being comparable to the KKK.

    4. I meant to add in this bit - remember that there are factual and value laden beliefs underlying what you call "women's rights". This phrase seems to be used most in reference to abortion - which women are fairly divided on, with a statistically significant majority being generally pro choice, but with a substantial minority. Now if you chalk up abortion beliefs to simply being pro or anti women, then you'll never understand the actual issue and will always misunderstand why people disagree.
     
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    That was a direct quote.....and it means they do not support a female president when they say they do not support a female president...:roll:
     
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    We are taking OP's word at face value. All I'm trying to do is clarify what he meant by it. Was he saying that there were women he knew that thought females shouldn't be president (which if the studies support it then there's no harm in holding that opinion) or were they talking about Hillary and they didn't like the idea of her being president and either he took it out of context or that's what they meant when they said it. Since neither of us are OP and neither of us were there OP is the only one who can clarify.
     
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    There it is....there it is...can you see it? I take it at face value....it says exactly what it says the ""they both told me that they do not support the idea of a female president.""


    You: ""Was he saying that there were women he knew that thought females shouldn't be president ?""

    Duh, ya think...since those were the exact words....

    Now, if you want clarification duhhh ask the OP what exactly he meant by those words since you seem to think they are a secret code for something else :roll: :roflol:
     
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    As I said, if in fact that's what they said we don't know if that's what they meant.
     

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