Women who hate the fetus – Where's your outrage over neonatal spending?!

Discussion in 'Abortion' started by Anders Hoveland, Mar 28, 2013.

  1. churchmouse

    churchmouse New Member

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    Pasithea said,

    Most of you believe in quality of life?

    Haha. Your kidding right? You who condones killing viable unborns.....says that you believe in the quality of life? LMAO

    DARN....the rules of this forum prevent me from continuing along my thought line. :)


    LIe. Most here are not like you....THEY OPPOSE CHANGING LAWS TO ALLOW WOMEN THE FREEDOM TO CHOOSE. You and a few others are the only ones for allowing late term abortion. So you don't give the unborn personhood ever....they do after they think viability happens. TWO DIFFERENT POSITIONS.


    So says someone again who would gladly kill a nine month old blob in the womb....JUST BECAUSE. You obviously...care about very little from what you post.


    No your recommendation would be a quick and safe abortion. Like why would you care if a pregnant woman did something to harm her blob. LOL

    Yea...Hitler did it why don't we, right?


    Pro-aborts trivialize anything that has to do with children....especially in the womb.
     
  2. Cady

    Cady Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Sister Joan Chittister is talking to you:


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    OKgrannie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Please explain...how DID she do that?
     
  4. churchmouse

    churchmouse New Member

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    With all due respect.....she is but one opinion and I think she does not see the larger picture of the pro-life movement.

    How dare you tell me that I do not care for those babies born. What do you do to help humanity...besides sit here day after day...night after night...bashing believers...making pot shots at pro-lifers...all while you support all abortion even late term. How dare you point fingers.

    The people...the good people....who help mankind, THE ONES WHO WORK TIRELESSLY TO HELP THE POOR, THE VULNERABLE DO NOT IMO COME FROM YOUR SIDE OF THE POSITION.
     
  5. WhatNow!?

    WhatNow!? New Member

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    DUHHH, the good Sister IS talking about the broader picture! That once children are here Anti-Choicers don't give a damn about them....


    And your hilarious "How dare you tell me...blah ,blah blah..." ....YOU tell others they are killers and love abortion and put all kinds of lies in their mouths....but no one can DARE tell you how YOU feel....??? WANNA BET?
     
  6. Cady

    Cady Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    A Catholic nun...doesn't understand the pro-life movement? LOL. Who would then?

    You don't support free or affordable birth control, and you don't support comprehensive sex education, which are the only proven ways to reduce the abortion rate. You don't support national health care, or other quality of life issues, like regulating pollution or public education. You are pro-birth, like Sister Chittister said.

    That is exactly what Planned Parenthood does--the organization that you want destroyed. That is what national health care does, and social welfare, all things you want destroyed. What do I do for humanity? I do volunteer tutoring 3 days a week. I help born children learn.
     
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    Do they not.

    I'll tell you what I do shall I.

    I put together computer equipment for disabled people, people who have things like MND (like Stephen Hawkins), and locked in syndrome, people who have no other means of communication other than via the systems we provide for them .. yes it is a business and needs to make a profit, however as technology progresses older machines are not required so we buy them back from the user and send them to charities to use in other countries, some of these children have NEVER been able to communicate with another person until we provided the system for them to do so.

    I have personally bought and refurbished a number of computer systems in order to donate them to local children's homes, my partner gives up every Sunday to volunteer at our local school for autistic children . .I also donate a sum of money to various charities including Bernardo's, Save The Children and Childline.

    In the past I have helped run a inner-city football team, worked with teenage drug addicts and given respite to babies so their ill mothers could have some time to rest.

    So who the hell are you to sit there in judgement of others who you know nothing about .. It is sickening that you project your deluded fantasies onto others simply to try and make yourself feel better about yourself.

    I don't demean women for making a choice, even if I do not agree with that choice.
    I don't thrust blame upon others for my own failings, just to make myself feel better about it
    I don't sit in judgement of people who have to make difficult choices

    You call yourself a Christian, yet you know nothing about what it means to be a Christian, you use your faith as a hammer instead of a glove, it is the knife you slash with not the bandage to dress wounds.
     
  8. Pasithea

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    You keep on beating that dead horse churchmouse. I am sure that someday...you may actually get tired of it and realize that it is stupid to chase that purple unicorn around.
     
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    SpaceCricket79 New Member Past Donor

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    Doesn't matter, you might as well say a woman has a right to kill her 2 year old child just because I don't want my tax dollars going to pay for it.
     
  10. Cady

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    We weren't talking about rights. We were talking about the hypocrisy of being pro-life, but not pro-quality of life.
     
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    SpaceCricket79 New Member Past Donor

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    The only people who have poor quality of life in this country are those who are either lazy, or poor at managing their money. Or people who have 5 kids with 5 different fathers and then wonder why they have no alternative to govt. assistance.
     
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    If you are anti-abortion, why are you complaining about government assistance for women with 5 children?
     
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    SpaceCricket79 New Member Past Donor

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    Because they have a choice not to sleep around, or forego protection don't they?
     
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    Do you know the details of their personal situations?
     
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    Well they sure didn't get pregnant via immaculate conception.
     
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    Meet a brick wall. When somone posts something as ridiculous as this :"""The only people who have poor quality of life in this country are those who are either lazy, or poor at managing their money. Or people who have 5 kids with 5 different fathers and then wonder why they have no alternative to govt. assistance. """


    ......no reasoning or facts will ever be able to penetrate.
     
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    They hypocrisy is on your side...the pro-abort side.
     
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    Prove that we do not do anything for children who are born?

    And then show what the pro-abort, pro-infanticide group does for children?
     
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    Cady said,

    So your saying that only CAtholics are involved in the pro-life movement/work? I am not Catholic by the way....does that shock you?

    "You don't support free or affordable birth control, and you don't support comprehensive sex education, which are the only proven ways to reduce the abortion rate. You don't support national health care, or other quality of life issues, like regulating pollution or public education. You are pro-birth, like Sister Chittister said."

    Who said that I don't support birth control? Could you right now....post a statement that I have made that said I do not support birth control......I can't wait to see this. Who said I did not support sex education? AGain please give the post # and thread. I do not support Obama Care...and the rest of the country does not either. I do support other life issues and know a lot about....euthanasia...and stem cell.....assisted suicide.
    PUblic education has nothing to do with health....and life. I am for competition and reform and think vouchers are a great idea.

    PP does give out birth control...they even will do it illegally...they love to go behind parents backs...so says their president. They are willing to do what they feel is right even if its against the law. I believe that some....SOME people need help...the elderly, handicapped, the terminal. But I think the majority mooching don't need it and are lazy. They are big government and believe they are owed....everything.

    You tutor? LMAO

    I won't comment. How does that do anything to help children who have no homes? How many adopted children do you have? Foster care?
     
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    How can you interpret my statement to mean that I think ONLY Catholics are involved in the pro-life movement? I am very aware that Evangelicals are probably more active and radical than Catholics.

    Don't distort. I said you don't support FREE and EASILY AFFORDABLE birth control. But you also oppose Plan B which is emergency contraception.

    Do you support comprehensive sex education? The majority of the pro-life movement doesn't. I know you oppose sex education by Planned Parenthood.
    Not true. The polls show the country is fairly evenly divided on this issue, and a November Gallup poll favors support for it.
    Yes, public education has very much to do with quality of life, and vouchers are intended to destroy public schools.

    You are the advocate for adoption. How many have you adopted?
     
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    How many foster care children have you adopted? Should all these unwanted foster care children just be terminated? Would the rest of society be better off?
     
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    I'm not an advocate for adoption vs. abortion. Therefore, I'm not the hypocrite here. And no, foster care children are born children, and I'm not an advocate for murder, either.
     
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    LOL...thats right your only an advocate for abortion. Abortion is murder IMO...so IMO your position supports murder. Better to kill for the pro-abortion position.
     
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    Abortion is only murder in extremist's eyes.
     
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    Cady said,

    CAtholics are the ones who lead the most. The CAtholic Church always stand on the truth. Protestant churches not so much. They might be against abortion..but don't talk about...and not as physically active.


    Where did I say this? Provide a link. I oppose anything that has the possibility to kill a living human being.

    I absolutely agree with sex education..but not for. I believe education is not totally the only answer...but it helps when people have all the facts. PP does not include all the facts. They are an abortion mill...abortion is their bread and butter. I believe that along with sex education..kids should learn about pregnancy...and fetal development. I think they need to read about what science says...not just what PP advocates. I do not believe abortion is the only answer.


    I don't believe this at all. It was rammed down our throats and if put to a public vote today I believe it would fail miserably. I do NOT have any faith in polls, they are just a guess.

    Our public schools need to be destroyed..we need to start over. Competition is the only way to make a better product and education is a product. People should not be forced...(and they are today..there are no options if you are poor) to have to send their child to a school they feel is inferior or does not align with their ideals. Its ironic that you are against forcing a woman to have a child...you don't care about killing...yet you want to force someone to stay in schools. Anti-education you are....right?
    Vouchers....charter schools.....home schooling are all great option for people to utilize. But the Democrats control the NEA...so we will never get the reform we need...and as we drop down the list on quality education among the world...we will have the Democrats to thank. They think the more money ya spend on anything the better. WE spend more on our kids than any other country in the WORLD and look at us. We do NOT value education and if your a parent who does and are stuck in a public schools...I find that sad.

    So you can't advocate something if you don't do it? LMAO
    How many schools do you attend daily to educate our youth? How many hands on community groups do you work with that work with kids.

    I have not adopted any children..but I have three adopted cousins...and I work at CPC.

    ARE right to lifers the only ones who are supposed to care? You said you support women to abort until late term. Do you think that all those women who adopt out should have killed their children? Why wouldn't pro-choicers want to help women who decide to have their babies? Something wrong with that. How can they get rid of their babies...when you tell them they can't kill in late terms. Your partly responsible.
    I do a big part to try to make a difference. But I can't do everything...and it sounds like you do nothing.

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    I am so blessed to be an extremist. Thank you God.
     

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