Women's rights?

That's not what I said and you know it why do you have to be dishonest

 

I'm not the one saying women should be able to slay them.

 

so why is it okay for a woman to kill it when it's a fetus but it's not okay for a man to abandon it when it's a fetus?

 

That is exactly what you keep repeating.You support a mans right to walk away if he doesn’t want a baby that is abandoning his child
And it’s interesing that you never answer....who should have the final say?

 

He has every right to abandon a fetus but once it is born it is no longer a fetus and it is his child. He can ignore the woman for nine months but once the child is born it is his. Sounds to me like you think it’s OK for him to abandon a child that is born. It is OK for a woman to terminate a pregnancy because it’s her body But if she doesn’t terminate her pregnancy it is not OK for her to abandon a born child anymore than it is OK for him to do that

 

Why don’t you call a zygote a little adorable toddler because you seem to like rhetoric that gets you all emotional
If only you cared about born children as much as you do about ZEFs

 

No that's what you keep saying.

 

You mean like you do when it comes to men's rights?

 

So a man is at the mercy of a woman's decision to carry to term or abort?

So again I ask, how is that equality.

 

Yup..the man does not get to control the womans body choices and thus does not have "Equal" rights to it. He also cant rape her because he wants to enjoy her body...weird huh?

 

we have, "in God we trust" on our money, not our women; coincidence or conspiracy?

 

When have I ever called a zygote a toddler? I am not that stupid. But I am smart enough to know that if she lets it develop and be born it will eventually be a toddler . His and hers

 

Exactly... is it equal that she has to go through nine months of damaging her body and risking health and going through agonizing childbirth? Are men so stupid that they don’t realize that they will be “at the mercy of a woman’s decision?“ Are they so stupid that they don’t know that only she can make the decision. And once again you don’t answer… Who should have the final decision?

 

this is a profoundly stupid argument tecoyah. I wasn't saying anybody should have any right or ability to control anyone else's body.

I'm asking why should a man have to pay for a woman's choice?

 

that by no definition is equality.

that's 100% her choice to do that. Why should a man pay for her choice?

my argument is not that they don't know that they are my argument is that it's not equality that they are.

 

not a toddler per se but you called it a child which a toddler is a child, when it came to the men's responsibility for it.

So when it's the woman's choice to abort it's just a zygote but when it comes to the men's responsibility to pay for that choice it magically becomes a child.

This is your inconsistency not mine.

why should a man have to pay for that choice? Why should men be subservient to women?

On what planet is that equality?

 

Child support laws.

 

Okay when it's in the womb is it a child? I'm not talking about after it's born.

 

Nope...it is obviously a ZEF and part of the woman which is WHY she is the only one with rights.

 

So if it's only a "ZEF" why can't a man abort is fatherhood responsibilities just like a woman can abort her motherhood responsibilities?

 

I suppose he can if she agrees, otherwise the courts hold him as responsible for impregnating her. That's the law and like many laws some do not like it.

 

No it should be his choice. That's equality.

But why should courts be allowed to force him to pay child support should she decide to have the baby?

How is that not oppression?

laws are sometimes wrong. This is a discussion about whether or not the law is right or not, not whether the law exists or not.

 

I find it interesting that YOU of all people are fighting against the law and worrying about something you will NEVER need to deal with. I should have kept ignoring you as you wanted...I will do so again.

Have A Nice Day

 

I find it not so interesting in fact quite predictable you'll resort to personal nonsense rather than arguing the point.

You ignore me because you're position is wrong and you know it and you can't argue. You don't want me to be right, but you know I am.

 

He had the choice and chose to have sex which he knows could lead to pregnancy. It isn’t a woman’s choice to get pregnant but it happens and they are equally responsible, only all the burden falls on her when she is carrying his child. I do not understand how somebody who is against abortion gets angry when a woman chooses not to have an abortion and wants the father not to have to pay for his child. As I say for you life begins at conception and ends at birthI