Women's Suicide rates Highest after Abortion

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  1. Fugazi

    Fugazi New Member Past Donor

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    I do :icon_jawdrop:
     
  2. Anders Hoveland

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    Abortion isn't even legal on demand in Finland. Women can only have abortions based upon social-economical and health factors. Unless the study actually linked similar health/economic factors between childbirth and abortion, which it didn't, the conclusion is garbage.
     
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    Except most of these women are young so they virtually all meet those "social-economic" factors because of their low income. It's a wide-open loophole, and the whole thing is a giant farce. It's the exception rather than the rule that any women who wants an abortion won't be able to use some exception to get her abortion.
     
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    Another lie from "lifenews." She committed suicide because of a relationship:

    http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/...suraj-cheating-forcing-abortion/1/279363.html
     
  6. Karma Mechanic

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    what more distortions from the anti-choice crowd??????? wow
     
  7. The Amazing Sam's Ego

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    Well what if she feels regret over the abortion, without ever having any experience with the abortion debate?
     
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    This is not surprising given all the hateful propaganda put out by the pro-life movement demonizing women.
     
  9. The Amazing Sam's Ego

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    I'd rather be considered somebody that demonizes woman than somebody that worships women. So yes, the pro-life movement demonizes selfish women that don't care about their own children.
     
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    I do not like demonization when it is based on ignorance and lies.

    There is no "child" in the early stages of pregnancy.
     
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    I agree with you, the study is a farce and you are just discrediting it even more so. If the women who had abortions were mostly young then that needs to be taken into consideration. Suicide rates are normally higher in 20 year olds than 30 year olds. So if the women having abortions are more likely to be younger than those who decided to go through childbirth, then this needs to be factored in too. Just like it also needs to be factored in that women who are having abortions also more likely to be lower-income and could possibly have preexisting health issues.

    Thanks for further proving my point, Hoveland.
     
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    More ad-hominem statements and baseless accusations against pro lifers. Second of all, that's just your opinion that there's no child in the early stages of pregnancy.
     
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    1) I am not the one trying to make the claim that there is a child in the early stages- claiming "baby killers" and so on.

    It is up to those making the "baby killer" claim to make a valid argument that supports that claim.

    Since lifers have no valid argument for their claim - their accusations are based on ignorance.
    Since lifers make ridiculous and fallacious arguments - their accusations are based on lies.

    I can list numerous fallacious arguments from the anti- aborts if you like.

    Did you have a valid argument ?
     
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    The fetus is a human life, and since abortion kills a human life, abortion is murder, and therefore abortions should be illegal.
     
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    But since abortion IS legal and murder is not abortion can't possibly be murder.
     
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    Slavery was once legal. The Holocaust was once legal.
     
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    keep trying, keep trying at some point even if by luck you will come up with something rational or intelligent or relevant...
     
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    The Amazing Sam's Ego Banned at Members Request

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    Your argument is that abortion is not murder, just because it's legal.

    However, if abortions was illegal, then it would be considered murder.
     
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    Hahhaha lol you just ignored all of my statements and you don't even want to address my main arguments. this show that you know that you're very wrong and you don't even know how to respond to my statements! If you were right, you would directly address my arguments and prove them wrong! But you don't even do that? This is probably because you can't even do that, because you know that I'm very right!
     
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    Here is a clue, it was not murder when it was illegal.
     
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    If it wasn't murder when it was illegal, well then, what was it?
     
  22. prometeus

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    That is because you have not made ANY arguments that were even remotely relevant or factual.

    You have to make statements first that show at least some basic understanding of the topic and contain some rational reasoning.

    You have not made any. Reciting the same mantra over and over is not an argument. Mindless drones can do as much. Can you actually address any aspects of the abortion issue with something relevant other than calling women sluts?

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    Do your own research and you may, just may, learn something that pertains to the topic. The simple fact that you have to ask just demonstrates how clueless you are on this subject.
     
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    Yes, I promise that I will address your arguments without calling women sluts, but that's only if you will address my specific statements first, without resorting to calling my arguments off topic and not factual and mantra. How's that for a compromise? If you cannot do this, this shows that you are too proud to admit that you're very wrong. Ignoring somebody's arguments shows that you know they're right and that you're wrong, unless you can address my specific statements.
     
  24. prometeus

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    No compromise, that is not what debating is about. If do have ANY arguments, or anything that supports your position then post them. This has been asked of you numerous times before yet all you managed is call women sluts. I do not expect any better in the future either, but I will gladly stand corrected when you will post something relevant and intelligently reasoned.

    If I am then you should have no trouble finding and quoting where I made the wrong statement or offered a reasoning that was false. I will wait, but will not hold my breath.

    You have not made ANY that have not been addressed or shown to be wrong.
     
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    Fun opinion couched as fact. Sam's Ego > Prometeus, and Prometeus doesn't even understand why. LMAO.
     

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