An egg is a human life, and since birth control kills a human life in the form of an egg, birth control is murder, and therefore birth control should be illegal. It has been shown to you that criminalizing abortion does not reduce them, does not stop them, does not even slow them down. So why do you want to pass a law that does not have the effect you wish?
An egg is not an organism. It's not truly human life. When the sperm and the egg combines, it because a human organism.
An egg is human and alive. A sperm is human and alive. They may not be organisms, but there is some question whether a zygote is an organism. You specified "human life" and that describes eggs and sperm. Why don't you think eggs and sperm deserve protection?
Because they're not organisms, that's why. Anybody that denies that a fetus or an embryo is an organism is very misinformed.
Thank you for the reply, but that was not what I asked. Can you please define what an organism is and preferably with a reference NOT from a religious site as clearly indicated by your reference is clueless about what self sustaining life is.
That religious site has made scientific arguments, not religious arguments, about why the fetus is an organism. Never once did it mention the soul or the bible in it's pro-life arguments which I have quoted.
Religious sites should be used for religious "matters" and unbiased scientific sites for matters of science. Why are you afraid of real science. Bottom line is that the site you cited has no expertise in science and outright states fallacies. A zygote is not a self sustaining life. If it was no uterus would be needed. Why are you afraid of the truth? Was your statement of 'not all pro-life people are religious a diversion. Clearly you a clinging to religion. You still have not answered what is an organism?
I'm playing some video games tonight and I'm taking a break from posting for a few hours. When I come back, if i post some non-religious pro-life statements, will you acknowledge the validity of those arguments?
Please do so. I will acknowledge anything you post for what it is. It it will be from an unbiased source it probably will be fact.
I'm still on the computer, I haven't started my break just yet, so here's a starter argument just before I get up. I will be able to respond to you again in about a few hours from now. http://www.prolifehumanists.org/tag/science/
You have offered nothing but another pro-life source not to mention that even that does not address the simple question I asked. What is an organism? Now if you do not know or are unable to to come up with an unbiased reference to such a benign question, please, please do not bother, you are only proving that nothing you post is credible and or honest.
You are so stubborn that you don't even acknowledge somebody else's arguments and try to refute them. Most pro-choicers on this forum are not like you. Where else am I supposed to quote? Some pro choice website? I was simply stating how the fetus is not comparable to sperm and egg cells, since those aren't true organisms. I was simply refuting okgrannie's arguments.
Yes I like to stricktly stick to facts, nothing else will do. As far as your post goes there was nothing to dispute or refute. What sperm on the egg do is not the issue. Yet you still are not addressing what an organism is. It is a simple question and it does not have a pro-life or pro-choice answer, just one found in basig biology texts. So how about it, will you define what an organism is and use a neutral reference? Yea we all are individuals. There are plenty yof unbiased sites especially for matters of science. And just to avoid any misunderstanding I asked you to define waht an orgnism is. It was really a very simple request with no pitfalls for you. Why not just answer it?
